MS TCM/9mm Doublestack 51943...Should I?

[Olympus]

Aside from AutoMag's personalized one, I've never seen anyone with one of these. I have a chance to get one from a distributor who just got in a small batch of these. But they are quite a bit more expensive than a typical RIA. Bud's last price on this model was $739 i think.

I don't really have the funds to invest in one more gun, but if I knew there was a demand for this model I'd go ahead and order one. I've got some tables at a local gun show next month. I'm just concerned about the price. Are people really going to pay say $725-$735 for a Rock Island?

I'd like to buy it for myself, but have other obligations right now.

[Xbonz]

Is this what you are talking about?

http://www.lipseys.net/images/RI51943.jpg?maxwidth=520


http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=RI51943

[Olympus]

Yes. That's the model.

[sdmc530]

I like it.....but I probably wouldn't buy one. Not a fan of the caliber but that is me!

[Olympus]

That's what I was afraid most people would think. $735 for a Rock Island i think might put people off and $20/box for the TCM ammo might be just as bad.

[AutoMag]

That is not a bad price on that Model. You have to stop and remember though that you are actually getting 2 guns for that price, the TCM22 and a 9MM. The gun will definitely sell as we cannot keep them in stock. Just as soon as a batch hits our warehouse they are shipped out to distributors that have dealers already waiting on them.

The TCM is a very nice round, quite a few friends in the law enforcement field are carrying them now and SWAT Teams are asking to demo the gun.

Here is my TCM 22 5" "demo gun" that I will be showing to the local SWAT and SEAL Teams here.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/AutoMag180/002_zps5c5f85e9.jpg (http://s130.photobucket.com/user/AutoMag180/media/002_zps5c5f85e9.jpg.html)

And here is my custom carry TCM 22.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/AutoMag180/20130826_2_zpsd943671e.jpg (http://s130.photobucket.com/user/AutoMag180/media/20130826_2_zpsd943671e.jpg.html)

[skosh69]

What brand is MS???? :confused:

[AutoMag]

What brand is MS???? :confused:

Ellison, we call our 4.25" guns Mid Size (MS) since the Colt followers get bent out of shape when you call a 4" or 4.25" gun a Commander as Colt I believes owns the trademark for it.:)

[milkmanjoe]

Ellison, we call our 4.25" guns Mid Size (MS) since the Colt followers get bent out of shape when you call a 4" or 4.25" gun a Commander as Colt I believes owns the trademark for it.:)


Yup, I believe that goes back to a lawsuit that resulted in Springfield calling their 4.25 barrel 1911....Champion

[AutoMag]

Yup, I believe that goes back to a lawsuit that resulted in Springfield calling their 4.25 barrel 1911....Champion

I think you are correct!!:)

http://youtu.be/eI-xJUSnkEA

[Olympus]

Sorry. I posted in the RIA section so i assumed everyone knew I was referring to a RIA.

RIA terminology:
FS: Full size 5"
MS: Mid size (commander for some) 4.25"
CS: Compact size (officer for some) 3.5"

[skosh69]

Ellison, we call our 4.25" guns Mid Size (MS) since the Colt followers get bent out of shape when you call a 4" or 4.25" gun a Commander as Colt I believes owns the trademark for it.:)

Roger that, thanks for the clarification buddy :D

[Shark1007]

Colt has no sense of humor!

[TUFF-IRON]

Is this what you are talking about?

http://www.lipseys.net/images/RI51943.jpg?maxwidth=520


http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=RI51943

Colt cant stop me from calling a 4.25" 1911 Commander sizenanner. And after shooting my single stack 22TCM I'm hooked:D and now I want the double stack version.:D

[TLE2]

So is the 22 TCM just a necked down 5.56? How do the ballistics compare?

[Rick McC.]

So is the 22 TCM just a necked down 5.56? How do the ballistics compare?

The COAL of a 5.56 would never fit in a 1911 frame.

Perhaps the .22TCM is a necked down 9X19mm?

I don't know.

Edit: Did some looking around. It is a 5.56 shortened to an approximate .38 super length.

[TUFF-IRON]

The 22TC is a 223 case shortened to these specs, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM#/media/File:22tcm_prm.jpg

It is loaded to the same OAL as a 45 ACP so it will fit in the 1911 platform. The cartridge is loaded with a 22 caliber 40 grain HP and is capable of exceeding 2000 fps in a 5" 1911. The bullets are flat nosed and are normally loaded in a 22 Hornet.
I just recently discovered this round myself even though it has been out for a couple years or more. The muzzle blast is huge and it is very loud but surprisingly the recoil is like shooting a 22 LR through a 40 ounce pistol, There is very little muzzle rise and the front sights come back on target quickly. The accuracy is also impressive.
Armscor is also developing a conversion kit for glocks but they made a
22TCMR for that which is a necked down 9mm. I don't know when that may be available.