1000 or BUST!

[Caleb]

Making this thread to keep a tally, record, and share my journey to 1000yds. My goal is to be able to hit a gong at 1000yds within the first five rounds shot at that distance. If you know a little about long range shooting, you realize it’s not as easy as just aiming and pulling the trigger. There are a lot of variables and math involved. So, to start off I will be purchasing a new rifle with a caliber that can get the job done ( I’ll have to do my part tho). I will update this thread with my journey, experiences, mistakes, positives, negatives, ect. Hope y’all will follow along on my road to 1K!

PS: a little disclaimer is that I HAVE shot and hit a target at 1K but, with someone else’s kit. I want to accomplish this with MY setup.


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[Riverpigusmc]

Good deal. I know one thing that won't be busted...
Btw..Colioris effect comes into play in that neighborhood

[RKP]

VERY interesting, I'll be checking in here quite often bud. http://www.cotep.org/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[sdmc530]

I like this thread. Can not wait to see how this plays out for you

[Caleb]

Good deal. I know one thing that won't be busted...
Btw..Colioris effect comes into play in that neighborhood



I was going to bring that up. Around what range it needed to be considered? Does it depend on the cartridge and velocity at range? Ect......


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[Riverpigusmc]

For 7.62 it was in the area of a geand

[Caleb]

10-4 I’ll have to read up and see if it’ll affect the 6.5 Creedmoor ( hint hint).


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[Caleb]

So, researching as I usually do before a big purchase. I have purchased the one that’ll get me out to 1K. I had a budget of $1000 to spend on the rifle itself plus optics . So, some of the runner ups were .....

Remington 700 5R in 6.5 Creedmoor
Ruger Precision In 6.5 Creedmoor
Howa 1500. In 6.5 Creedmoor

As you can see, I chose the 6.5mm Creedmoor cartridge to get me out there. Other contenders were 260 Rem, 6mm Creedmoor, and 300 Win Mag. I chose the 6.5 because of lighter recoil and better ballistics with good aftermarket support.

So, for the rifle I chose...... I went with something different than what you normally see out on the line. I like to be different but, I need to be in this fight. This rifle has good reviews and the features it comes with for the price..... it’s untouchable (imho).

I went with the Bergara B14 HMR In 6.5 Crd

Here is a snippet from the manufacturer’s website....

“Although there are many rifles on the market today, we wanted to focus on one thing: quality. Our B-14 rifles were inspired by the desire to bring the quality that Bergara was known for in the custom rifle world to production rifles made for all hunters. In the B-14 rifle, you will find a level of craftsmanship that surpasses all of the other production hunting rifles on the market.
The B-14 HMR rifle features our integrated mini-chassis molded into the stock to give the rifle repeatable bedding and accuracy. It also supports a fully free-floated BERGARA barrel to achieve optimal precision. The Bergara Hunting and Match rifles are built to offer a rifle for both hunters and competition shooters that can perform incredibly in either situation. The stock features an adjustable cheekpiece and length of pull spacers. Built in Spain at our highly automated and efficient barrel factory, this rifle delivers a level of quality and performance that is unmatched in its price range.

The world-renowned Bergara barrel on this long range precision rifle is complemented by our own super-smooth B-14 Action, which is a two-lug system with a Sako-style extractor and a coned bolt nose and breech to ensure a smooth feeding and extraction of the cartridge. It’s also outfitted with a Bergara curved trigger we designed to guarantee a crisp, clean pull every time you fire the rifle. The trigger comes set at about three pounds. It has been factory drilled and tapped to fit Remington 700 style rings and bases.

A 5-round AICS compatible detachable magazine is standard with our HMR rifle. QD flush cups are included in the stock to allow for easy attachment and detachment of slings.”

CALIBER: 6,5 Creedmoor
BARREL LENGTH: 22”
TWIST: 1:8”

All I need to do is add a Scope package and bipod and I’m ready to rock!

Pics on the next page......





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[Caleb]

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[Caleb]

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[Caleb]

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[AFJuvat]

Nice score!

[Caleb]

I went with the HMR because I didn’t want a Chassis rifle. Not that there is anything wrong with them (in fact they are usually more accurate) but, I like the looks of this one better (personal choice). The stock is adjustable for LOP and cheek hight. It is also free full floated (barrel) and has an aluminum piece embedded in the stock to add rigidity. The barrel is only 22”s but according to some research , you only lose around 60-70 FPS compared to a 26” barrel. But, you gain less weight and shorter profile. Guess that’s not a big deal on a “target” rifle but, whatever. Enlarged bolt knob helps throw the 90 degree action to cycle in a new round with ease. This bolt is smooth as butta! The factory trigger is amazing for a factory trigger. They say it’s adjusted to 3 lbs from the factory but, mine feels lighter. The break is clean and brisk with no take up or creep at all. Also, very little movement rearward of the trigger after it breaks. It’s nice , really nice. I can drop a Timney in there but, why? This one will do the job. Maybe time will tell me differently. Forgot to mention the barrel is threaded for a brake or suppressor. I’ll throw a brake on there to help stay on target with follow up shots.


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[Caleb]

Here is the rifle in the box...

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[Caleb]

We will talk Scope package when it comes in, hopefully this week.


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[RKP]

:cool: ... You're not playing around are ya bud ... very nice !!

[Caleb]

:cool: ... You're not playing around are ya bud ... very nice !!



No Sir!


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[sdmc530]

This is super cool. What optics are you getting?

[Caleb]

This is super cool. What optics are you getting?



Patience grasshopper. Scope should arrive tomorrow or Friday


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[RKP]

Patience grasshopper. Scope should arrive tomorrow or Friday

funny

[sdmc530]

Patience grasshopper. Scope should arrive tomorrow or Friday


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“Feels rejected” as I walk away







:rolleyes:

[Caleb]

“Feels rejected” as I walk away















:rolleyes:



Don’t worry, you are still my favorite donut boy.


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[sdmc530]

Don’t worry, you are still my favorite donut boy.


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redeemed!

[Caleb]

Today I received my scope. I want to see what the hype is all about with these Athlon scopes so, that’s what I purchased. More specifically, the Argos BTR-APMR FFP 8-34x56 , illuminated. The description below is from the manufacturer’s webpage and lists all the specs for it.

DESCRIPTION:

For those of you that are just getting started in the PRS or are looking to start, take a close look at the Argos BTR family of scopes. These scopes have features normally only found on high-end scopes. It has a 4x magnification that makes it versatile in multiple shooting disciplines. It has our Advanced Fully-Multi Coated Optics that delivers a crystal clear bright image in in dark environments. The Argos BTR also has our exclusive XPL coating that protects your lenses from dirt, grease and harsh weather conditions. The 6061T6 aircraft grade aluminum tube will protect these world class optics no matter what punishment you throw at it. WE just didn’t build the Argos BTR to just perform well optically we also built in features that make easy to adjust for any shot you have to take. These scopes have Side Parallax Adjustment to give you the ability to adjust to any ranged right at your fingertips. This along with the variety of first focal plane reticles give you easy elevation and windage adjustments.

This Argos BTR 8-34×56 Model has APMR first focal plane illuminated MIL reticle in it. Please click the link for download the reticle instruction manual in Specification for more details…

SKU#:214066

FEATURES:

First Focal Plane Reticle:
First focal plane design allows you to fully utilize specially designed reticles that shrink or grow along with your target as you zoom in or out. These reticles offer quick target engagement at low power while offering precise holdover positions with finer details.

Illuminated Reticle:
The illuminated reticle provides greater visibility during dusk and dawn and other low ambient light environment.

Etched Glass Reticle:
Reticle etched on the glass that provides excellent backing support for complex reticle design and offers great durability and much higher shock resistance to recoil

Fully Multicoated:
Fully Multicoated optics effectively reduces reflected light and increases the transmission of light giving you a brighter image than normal single coated lenses

6061 T6 Aluminum:
The 6061T6 aircraft grade aluminum tube that has exceptional strength and superior mechanical integrity will protect these world class optics no matter what punishment you throw at it.

Heat Treated One Piece Tube Construction:
Heat treated one piece tube gives the scope extra strength over multi-piece tubes. A one piece tube also is better at keeping moisture out thus keeping your scope fog proof for the life of the product

Waterproof:
Waterproof to protect the scope in the harshest weather conditions or if accidentally submerged underwater

Fog proof:
Fog proof to allow you to immediately engage your target when you take your rifle to cold ambient temperature from warm inside

Shockproof:
Robust mechanical system with special designs on both control and erector system that give you the ultimate recoil resistance to withstand 1000G recoil for 1000 times.

Argon Purged:
Argon Purging uses the inertia gas with bigger size molecules to purge any moisture out of the tube giving you better waterproofing and thermal stability .

SPECIFICATION:

Magnification:8-34
Objective Lens Diameter:56 mm
Reticle: APMR FFP IR MIL, Glass Etched
Surface Finish:Matte
Lens Coating:Wide Band Fully Multicoated
Extra Coating:Xtra Protective Coating
Tube Material:6061 Aluminium
Tube Diameter:30 mm
Exit Pupil: 7-1.7 mm
Eye Relief:3.3 inches
Field of View @100 yards:12.5-3 feet
Click Value:0.1MIL
Adjustment range per rotation:5MIL
Total Elevation Adjustment:13 MIL
Total Windage Adjustment:13 MIL
Turret Style:Exposed
Parallax Adjustment:Side Focus – 15 yards to infinity
Purging Material:Argon
Length:15.5 inches
Weight:32.2 ounces







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[Caleb]

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[Caleb]

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[Caleb]

The scope came with lens flip caps that are good quality. Also in the box was a baggie with 6-8 plastic washers. These washers are for when you dial your zero in, you can set a “zero stop”. In other words ....once you have your zero at your preferred zero distance, these washers are inserted under the turret caps to “stop” the turret from being adjusted below your zero. Example: Let’s say you set your scope zero to 100yds. You are out shooting targets from 100-500yds. You adjust your elevation to the 500yd setting (whatever that may be for your setup) and now want to shoot at 100yds again. Instead of counting how many turnsof the turret you made to get your 500yd adjustments, all you have to do is turn the turret back till you hit your “zero stop” and just set the turret to the “0” mark and you are back to a 100yd zero. Hope that makes sense. Lol

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[Caleb]

I also purchased an EGW 20moa scope rail. Since the Bergara action is essentially a Rem 700 action on steroids, scope rails were super easy to find. I purchased the 20moa rail since I’ll be shooting out to 1000yds. This will help with vertical adjustment ranges. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/fdc27fd419511f394d717a098340d52c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/a365a5048b0b7e2a6a69679c161dacb1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/3d3e9f4aaf22a333b8525d9fdae547d6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/496e79bd1e44d0446e31f2f9f5a2a1b2.jpg


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[Caleb]

Oh yeah, almost forgot. I got a bubble level as well. This is pretty explanatory I think. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/da74013e3023e3237b4b4b38c99734bb.jpg


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[Caleb]

Waiting on the rings now.... tracking says Saturday delivery. Blah.


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[DrHenley]

Like a kid waiting for Santa funny

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[Lonestar grips.]

Btw..Colioris effect comes into play in that neighborhood

What does a women's fun button have to do with long range shooting????

[sdmc530]

Oh mongo that is funny



Nice optics bud. So rings and then range day?

[Caleb]

Oh mongo that is funny



Nice optics bud. So rings and then range day?



Rings, bipod, and ammo. Then wait till next Range day. Probably won’t be till January.


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[RKP]

I've read/heard good things about those Athlon scopes.
How ya sleeping at night bud? :D

[Caleb]

I’m sleeping well, it’s finally home. Lol..... I Hate waiting for online orders but, it was well worth the wait.


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[Horse'nround]

Good deal. I know one thing that won't be busted...
Btw..Colioris effect comes into play in that neighborhood

Go for it Caleb, it will be fun to make the journey with you.

pig I think the one you want is Coriolis effect... or were going for something like the clitoris effect ??:eek:

Different ball game bud. But from what we here you are intimately familiar with...:D

[Horse'nround]

What does a women's fun button have to do with long range shooting????

Come on Zane you know the pig comes from the land of this is my piece, this gun...


This ones for shootin, this ones for fun!:D

[RKP]

Just checked in here and there's no pics of the scope mounted yet. :facepalm:

:D

[Caleb]

Just checked in here and there's no pics of the scope mounted yet. :facepalm:

:D



Today is the day (12-8-18) of said scope mounting. I have received the rings yesterday. Woohoo!


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[Caleb]

Scope mounting time!

First things first, you have to degrease the mounting areas and screw threads to remove any grease or oil . This will ensure the loctite will hold properly. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/3eac6a0bceae300560bb2238965dd9af.jpg

Then you mount the 20 moa rail and tighten the screws to the recommended torque.... these required 20lbs. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/f6bd144eef1cb005f6c9095d4ae00180.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/6901f256ddced79ff4524ebdb70a281b.jpg

Next step is to make sure your rifle is level. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/214664f561552eabda8cc93ae64050f6.jpg

Once you are sure you are level..... install the rings and lightly tighten them. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/aad7ef84c52a69851bf7c70c844afc49.jpg

I like to mark the upper and lower rings that came together to assure that they will tighten properly and what not. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/4ed7bc53934ae26005860ce1ac2f73a3.jpg


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[Caleb]

Next, put your scope in place and lightly tighten the top rings so that you can still move the scope forward/backwards and side to side. You need to find where the scope needs to be for your proper eye relief. Once you find out where the scope needs to be, put a level on it and tighten the screws evenly in a crisscross pattern (like lug nuts on your vehicle’s wheels). Remove one screw at a time and add a drop of blue loctite and repeat till you have all screws done. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/e0f9f75899a7d3d5f3e8691c7a4af0e0.jpg
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As you can see in that last pic, I added a bubble level to the scope to help at longer ranges.

The Vortex (high) rings were way too high for this setup. So, I swapped them out for some UTG ( I know cheap rings but, they are surprisingly really well made) low rings I had in the parts bin. Here is a before and after of the gap between the bell and barrel. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/6daa8a2e3c2178e618fe3883ce34b071.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/bcfd86dc6d750751d46a43a9d1de153f.jpg

That’s it, done. Scope is mounted and ready to be zero’d.


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[Caleb]

Here is the rifle all ready to head to the range. I threw on an old Harris bipod I was using the AR15 DMR I built. I’ll have to pick up another bipod sometime in the future. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/bb4dc1ce23710f96bf2a6bf7d55b3fd0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/a5fe8ef30de375690b45f788e9b889ac.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/7f169dfa204eb157e25d9df381468998.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/6e0d5487b78b2ac03fcea71070e1f32d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/b303f41bd6251d0fc7f33ee961a62fb6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181208/29fb74eefc7bb62d95c1540fbd476d59.jpg


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[Caleb]

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PS: check out the sun shade I threw on there. I think it makes it look like it has serious business to attend to. Also, the muzzle is threaded so I’ll throw a brake on there as soon as I find it (wherever the hell I put it, can’t find it now).

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[RKP]

^^:cool:^^
Looking great bud, and a awesome job on your write up as well. It looks as though the scope/rings are set up as a quick detach?? The sun shade does add a 'serious business' look. BTW, if you're like me you probably put the muzzle brake somewhere where you wouldn't loose it. :D

[Riverpigusmc]

good job. For those interested, once your rifle is level, you can hang a string with a weight like a plumb bob and look through the scope to set the vertical cross hair

[Caleb]

^^:cool:^^
Looking great bud, and a awesome job on your write up as well. It looks as though the scope/rings are set up as a quick detach?? The sun shade does add a 'serious business' look. BTW, if you're like me you probably put the muzzle brake somewhere where you wouldn't loose it. :D



Thanks man! The quick detach rings is all I had for low profile rings on hand. I’m going to order some new ones.


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[Caleb]

good job. For those interested, once your rifle is level, you can hang a string with a weight like a plumb bob and look through the scope to set the vertical cross hair



Thanks. This is a great way to do it too. ^^^^


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[RKP]

good job. For those interested, once your rifle is level, you can hang a string with a weight like a plumb bob and look through the scope to set the vertical cross hair

:cool: ... http://www.cotep.org/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Horse'nround]

This is going to be fun...:D

[RKP]

C aleb Question:
What am I seeing on the bottom side of the barrel in front of the fore grip in some of the pics?

[Caleb]

C aleb Question:
What am I seeing on the bottom side of the barrel in front of the fore grip in some of the pics?



Bergara sticker on the barrel, it has been removed. [emoji16]


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[RKP]

Bergara sticker on the barrel, it has been removed. [emoji16]

:cool: ... http://www.cotep.org/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[RKP]

Just checked in here and there's no range report w/pics yet. :facepalm:

:D

[Caleb]

Just checked in here and there's no range report w/pics yet. :facepalm:

:D



Cmon now.....waiting on the ammo to show up as well as waiting for the next sheriff’s range day (which will be in January).

So........PATIENCE!!!!!!!!


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[sdmc530]

Pffffff find a flat stretch of freeway and have at it. Don’t understand why you’re waiting

[Caleb]

Pffffff find a flat stretch of freeway and have at it. Don’t understand why you’re waiting



[emoji23] This isn’t the Dakotas, although we do have plenty of flat lands..... [emoji848]


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[sdmc530]

true, I could probably shoot 68 miles straight and not hit anything....pretty flat around here

[Caleb]

Can you guys go out of town and just set up in the mountains and shoot? Or does it have to be at a “Range”?


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[sdmc530]

Can you guys go out of town and just set up in the mountains and shoot? Or does it have to be at a “Range”?


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We can't go anyplace but we have a lot of public places we can set up at shoot. Its pretty easy to just go our and shoot. BUT sometimes its more dangerous to go to the public places than not...…..

[Caleb]

We can't go anyplace but we have a lot of public places we can set up at shoot. Its pretty easy to just go our and shoot. BUT sometimes its more dangerous to go to the public places than not...…..



True. I know that in Utah you can just drive out to the desert (certain miles away from civilization) and set up and shoot. Some guys shoot a mile (1760yds) with no one else around. Wish I could do that here.


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[Horse'nround]

Cmon now.....waiting on the ammo to show up as well as waiting for the next sheriff’s range day (which will be in January).

Exsqueeze me??! Moi is loading his own???:eek::eek:
Trust nothing my friend. If you intend to make a run at this in earnest, then you'll be measuring and weighing everything.:banghead:

Consistency is everything in this game, even the temperature and humidity in your loading room when your loading.:target:

Here is a link to a nice (not over the top) article on ammo. It has some links in it to assist in other facets of the game.

https://journalofmountainhunting.com/ammunition-for-long-range-shooting/

[Riverpigusmc]

True. I know that in Utah you can just drive out to the desert (certain miles away from civilization) and set up and shoot. Some guys shoot a mile (1760yds) with no one else around. Wish I could do that here.


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on a clear day you could shoot a yankee on a beach....

[sdmc530]

on a clear day you could shoot a yankee on a beach....

But could caleb :D

[Caleb]

But could caleb :D



Straight through his donut hole.


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[Caleb]

Exsqueeze me??! Moi is loading his own???:eek::eek:

Trust nothing my friend. If you intend to make a run at this in earnest, then you'll be measuring and weighing everything.:banghead:



Consistency is everything in this game, even the temperature and humidity in your loading room when your loading.:target:



Here is a link to a nice (not over the top) article on ammo. It has some links in it to assist in other facets of the game.



https://journalofmountainhunting.com/ammunition-for-long-range-shooting/



I agree Sir but, to start I’ll use factory loaded stuff.....it’s actually pretty good. Once I find what my gun likes, I can fine tune it with loading my own.

Thanks for the link, I’ll check it out.


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[NAMVET72]

Very Nice Caleb . Now remember shoot 3 e
rds and clean out the barrel then 3 rds again and check barrel temp every so often.


Clyde

[Caleb]

Very Nice Caleb . Now remember shoot 3 e

rds and clean out the barrel then 3 rds again and check barrel temp every so often.





Clyde



Thank you.

I haven’t personally seen or read anything that shows definitive accuracy issues by not “breaking in” a new barrel. So, generally I just shoot it with however many rounds I brought that particular day. Also, I believe you will not see the actual accuracy of a barrel till it fouls up properly. What I usually do with a new barrel is to shoot how ever many rounds I brought then, clean it really well at home base. The next few range trips after that get no cleaning till I see the accuracy falling off. I will run a bore snake through it every now and then though.

Convince me otherwise and I might listen. [emoji16]


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[RKP]

Anything new happening on this project bud?

[Caleb]

Anything new happening on this project bud?



Yesterday I received the ammo I ordered from Grafs. Unfortunately, I will be out of town on the next open range days (5th and 6th) for the Sheriffs Range. So, looks like some time in February if I can’t get out to Okeechobee to shoot (1.25hr drive). I’m going to look into a club membership this coming year and see if it’ll be worth it for me.


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[RKP]

You getting 'antsy' yet? :D

[NAMVET72]

Contact rifle manufacturer see what bullet weight they suggest for your rifle. Also make sure scope is set up properly. for example torque specs on most Mil spec rifle scopes are from 12 to 15 inch pounds and stock to metal parts are 30 to 40 inch pounds.
Most of all practice makes pefect and use the same brass and bullets all the time when you get your optics sighted in.............


Clyde

[Caleb]

Today I made sure that my reticle was leveled to the rifle. Hold up...... didn’t I level the scope to the rifle already? Yes, yes I did. BUT, that doesn’t mean the reticle is level with the scope. So, I put a plumb line on a wall and leveled the rifle. With a scope of 8-32x56, there is no way to back up far enough to be able to look through the scope to line up to the plumb line. So, a neat little trick from a forum member (different forum) lets you check it with only a few feet of distance. Basically, you can shine a light backwards through the scope to project the reticle onto the wall where you have your plumb line set up. This will tell you if your reticle is level with the rifle. I was lucky and mine was so, no adjustments necessary. I did have my bubble level off a little bit. Fixed that and now I’m ready to rock!

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[RKP]

Very nice !!
What bi-pod are you using?
Having never used quick detach scope mounts ... once removed and reinstalled does the scope hold its 'sighted in position' like expected to?

[sdmc530]

Very nice !!
What bi-pod are you using?
Having never used quick detach scope mounts ... once removed and reinstalled does the scope hold its 'sighted in position' like expected to?

I have a 30-06 that have flip over scope rings. You can flip them off to one side to use the iron sights. I think its made by weaver. Problem was every time you flipped over the scope then put it back you had to figure out where you shooting all over again. Design was good, execution was not so good.

Quick release would be good if the tolerances are very good....I like the idea. Cool bud

[Caleb]

Bipod is a good old Harris. The quick release rings are not my choice but, it’s all I had in “low” rings laying around. I don’t plan on removing the scope since this is a dedicated long range rig. Eventually I will purchase non release rings and replace these.

Can repeatable zero be achieved with quick release mounts? Sure. Does it usually happen? Doubt it.?


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[RKP]

Bipod is a good old Harris ...... Can repeatable zero be achieved with quick release mounts? Sure. Does it usually happen? Doubt it.?

Was thinking the same on both ^^.

[Caleb]

First chance to take this bad boy out to 100yds is this weekend (Jan 5-6) but, I will be at an Appleseed Project event, hopefully earning a “Rifleman” badge. [emoji16]


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[sdmc530]

Nice....can't wait to hear how it shoots

[RKP]

:cool:
Looking forward to your first range report bud !!

[Caleb]

Me either! The wait sucks....


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[Horse'nround]

I was lucky and mine was so, no adjustments necessary. I did have my bubble level off a little bit. Fixed that and now I’m ready to rock!

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So what are you using the green Tupper hammer for?
Oh I know, you needed a flashlight...:D

[sdmc530]

nothing wrong with a gun that will melt at a low heat point

[Caleb]

So what are you using the green Tupper hammer for?

Oh I know, you needed a flashlight...:D



Lmao.... exactly what I used it for.


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[Horse'nround]

nothing wrong with a gun that will melt at a low heat point

Especially if you are needing to get rid of evidence.... eh Philevilnanner

[sdmc530]

Especially if you are needing to get rid of evidence.... eh Philevilnanner

shhhhhhhh

[Caleb]

Lol....

I zeroed it this past Saturday but, it’s a rough zero as I haven’t tested all the ammo I’d like to test. When I find the most accurate cartridge this rifle likes, I’ll zero it to that load.


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[RKP]

Hmmmmmm, last update on 2/5/19. :confused:

[sdmc530]

Hmmmmmm, last update on 2/5/19. :confused:

He got tired walking to and from the target and just gave up never to be seen again

[RKP]

He got tired walking to and from the target and just gave up never to be seen again

funny

Now that you mention that Phil, pig did PM me and said Caleb was going to start a gofundme page so he could get himself another new pair of '1000 or bust shoes'

[sdmc530]

funny

Now that you mention that Phil, pig did PM me and said Caleb was going to start a gofundme page so he could get himself another new pair of '1000 or bust shoes'

Maybe alex should lend him his new toy?

[Caleb]

Lmao... you guys are funny.
But, I forgot about this thread as I’m not progressing as I thought I would. Although, I should update the good and the bad. I’ll see what I can do tomorrow. Thanks for the reminder.


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[sdmc530]

Lmao... you guys are funny.
But, I forgot about this thread as I’m not progressing as I thought I would. Although, I should update the good and the bad. I’ll see what I can do tomorrow. Thanks for the reminder.


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Allow me to translate:

Grouping was good about 3” at 1000. The group was in the 9 ring too however the guys target i was hitting was three lanes over so that probably doesn’t count.

Just messing around brother I could not hit crap at that distance. Just crazy

[Caleb]

Lmao....

Haven’t had it that far out yet. Furthest distance so far is 300yds and although it wasn’t a bad day, the rifle wasn’t performing as I think it can. I would get three shots touching and then the last two would be two inches to the right and up. I could not get five shots to group worth a sh%t. Since that weekend I have changed out the scope rings to better quality rings and also, changed out the the muzzle brake. The brake I had on there was for a .308 semiauto. I purchased the correct brake for 6.5 Creedmoor. The scope rings I had on there (grabbed from the spare parts drawer) were quick release units and I believe they might of been moving during recoil. The third thing was, I’m still figuring out what cartridge this rifle likes. So far it’s looking like the best groups are from Hornady ELD Match 140gr pills. I have not shot it since the changes so, no update on how it’s shooting right now. Here are some target pics from the last outings.

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100yds prone

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300yds prone

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[sdmc530]

Might be a dumb question but how high over the target do you shoot to even hot paper at 1000? I can’t even guess


Groups look good though really

[Caleb]

Might be a dumb question but how high over the target do you shoot to even hot paper at 1000? I can’t even guess


Groups look good though really



Depends on a lot of variables so, there is no simple answer to your question. Plus, you dial in your elevation on your scope. Therefore, you are aiming center mass.




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[RKP]

:cool:
I know you'd like to do better but I don't think I'd b!tch too much about that, especially since you're really still getting acclimated to the set-up and figuring some things out as well as changing out some things. A lot of variables to figure out.

Keep us posted bud ! http://www.cotep.org/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

BTW, what ground pad is that you're using?

[Caleb]

Thanks bud. I’m using a MidwayUSA shooting Matt. Runs about $30-40 depending on sales or what not. It’s nice and worth the money.


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[RKP]

...... I’m using a MidwayUSA shooting Mat. Runs about $30-40 depending on sales or what not. It’s nice and worth the money.


Thank you. http://www.cotep.org/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Caleb]

Thank you. http://www.cotep.org/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif



Absolutely.


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