Frog lube initial review

[Hoss in IL]

Well, I had been reading about Frog Lube for a couple of months and just a while back it showed up in threads on the "big forum". It seemed like the Frog Lube threads went down hill quick with bickering, as a lot of threads do, so I thought I would post my progress and future updates here for you guys/gals instead of in the "Lions Den".

I'll start by saying that for the past couple of years I have been using FP-10 on all of my pistols. It did what it was supposed to and I have no complaints.

I did have an incident with my CBOB back in the early spring. I was at the range one day and had my slide sieze up on me. It freaked me out a little because I always have a lot of lube on my rails. I always make sure my pistols aren't dry before I shoot them. I diagnosed (opinion only) that my pistol was fitted so tight that the rails were "plowing" the lube off the pistol. It was during an extended shooting session and I didn't think (yeah, I know, there's my mistake right there!) to stop and re-lube.

I had another forum member guide me through and help me loosen my slide to frame fit :eek::eek::eek: with files and stones:mob::mob::mob:. I cleaned the pistol very well, re-lubed and shot it. Absolutely no "damage" to accuracy, at least in my hands. Still VERY accurate shooter.

So, that's one of the reasons I went for the Frog Lube. You can read some of it's lubrication claims (some of them seem like an infomercial, a la Billy Mays). I'ts not supposed to "dry up" like oil will. I know, I could use grease.

First pistol I used it on was my Springfield GI.

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You're supposed to clean the pistol of Petro based products before applying the Frog Lube and warm the metal. So, I detail stripped it, used non-chlorinated brake cleaner on it and set it out in the sun. It got warm alright!

When I applied the FL (I'm getting tired of typing "frog lube"), the parkerizing soaked it up like a sponge. I did all of the small parts too. Followed the directions to a "T".

I shot 300 rounds through it the next day without any problems and cleaning afterwards consisted of just wiping the gun down with the towel they send with the kit. I was impressed. Sorry didn't get any pictures.

I figured since it worked good on the GI, I would try it on the CBOB.

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Again, I detail stripped it, brake cleaner-ed it, and set it in the sun to bake. I'll just say now that the stainless parts got much hotter in the sun :eek:
I shot the CBOB two days ago with the new FL on it and it worked great. Clean up was a breeze too.

I decided to use it on my Delta Elite too so today I did the strip and clean but it was cloudy here so I put all of the parts on a cookie sheet and put them in the oven. 170 degrees is as low as my electric oven will go and yeah, they come out hotter than you want to touch :D

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Like I said I'm pretty happy with the new "wonder lube" so far. I'm hoping it does as well as advertised on rust prevention because I have a bunch of places on the GI where the parkerizing is worn off and my frame tangs are bare metal after I filed them down for the new beavertail. I'll let y'all know how things go and I'll try to remember to take "dirty" pictures and update with good, bad, or ugly developments.

Take care,

Terry

[MajO]

Thanks Terry. Great write up.

[Thedragonslayer]

Look forward to hearing more... man, thats a lot of parts! ;)











Noel

[Hoss in IL]

I tell you what Noel, after you strip three pistols in less than two weeks, they go back together faster. I did fumble with the sear and disconnector a little. The lube made them so slick that I had a hard time keeping them lined up together to re-install. I figured out a trick though.

I'll let y'all know how it goes, good or bad. I hope not bad.

[Hail Caesar]

How's it compare with Ol' Panther Piss Lube?


:p

I might have to try it out sometime.

[Hoss in IL]

Man, I could never get the taste of PPL out of my mouth after I put a chew in! :D

[allrockabilly]

I might have to check out the Frog lube. I just recently bought me some Wilson Combat Ultima lube II (Universal) and it seams to work pretty nice it's not real thick like grease but a lot better than regular oils that run and dry up.

Have you ever tried any of the Wilson Combat Lubes and if you have how does it seem to compare to the Frog lube? It kind of sounds similar.

Thanks again for the post.

-Ryan S

[Hoss in IL]

No Ryan, I've never tried the Wilson Combat lube. I'm getting ready to head to the range in a little while. I'll take pictures of dirty guns and wiped clean guns and post them.

[SemperFi1977m]

Thanks for the write-up Terry.

[allrockabilly]

Sweet can't wait for the pics.

Thanks,

-Ryan S

[bvkdphillips]

Great write up Terry. Thanks for taking to time to detail this.
Bob

[Grizzman]

I might have to check out the Frog lube. I just recently bought me some Wilson Combat Ultima lube II (Universal) and it seams to work pretty nice it's not real thick like grease but a lot better than regular oils that run and dry up.

Have you ever tried any of the Wilson Combat Lubes and if you have how does it seem to compare to the Frog lube? It kind of sounds similar.

Thanks again for the post.

-Ryan S

I bought a bottle of the Wilson Combat lube about 6 months ago, but I don't think I ever tried it out. I guess I threw it into my range bag and forgot about it. The next time I clean a 1911, I'll try it out to see how it compares to the TW25B I've been using.

Grizz

[allrockabilly]

I bought a bottle of the Wilson Combat lube about 6 months ago, but I don't think I ever tried it out. I guess I threw it into my range bag and forgot about it. The next time I clean a 1911, I'll try it out to see how it compares to the TW25B I've been using.

Grizz



Thanks Grizz,
I have just started to use it and so far I am very pleased. But I need to make a range trip soon and really give it a good try.

If you do try it out let me know what you think.

Thanks,

-Ryan S

[bald1]

That technique of warming the metal parts is also one advocated by Militec-1. I've been using that product for about a decade and have had no problems at all. It seems to penetrate the metal and provide lubrication even when appearing "dry" which I note is also a claim of Frog Lube.

[allrockabilly]

That technique of warming the metal parts is also one advocated by Militec-1. I've been using that product for about a decade and have had no problems at all. It seems to penetrate the metal and provide lubrication even when appearing "dry" which I note is also a claim of Frog Lube.


Sounds pretty interesting, I will have to order both and give them a try.

I actually went to range today and the Wilson Combat Ultima-Lube II (Universal) works great. It keep the pistols lubricated the entire trip and when I was done It also made clean up a bit easier since i put a light coat over the areas that get the most build up of carbon and crap. That stuff wipe off pretty simple.

Anyways thanks for posting.

-Ryan S

[Thedragonslayer]

I tell you what Noel, after you strip three pistols in less than two weeks, they go back together faster. I did fumble with the sear and disconnector a little. The lube made them so slick that I had a hard time keeping them lined up together to re-install. I figured out a trick though.

I'll let y'all know how it goes, good or bad. I hope not bad.

Terry, hope to see the dirty pics!!!:eek: Also please let us know how it goes over several times out to the range. The more the info, the the better!:salute:


Terry, I do wish you'd stop by the table in the evening's even just to say "Hi"!


noel

[Grizzman]

I put about 100 rounds through my Valor, which I had lubed up with Wilson Combat Ultima-Lube II grease.

After the session, more of the lube was squeezed out of the rail channel than I see with FP-10 ((makes sense cause it's thicker) but there was still plenty of lube where it counts. I'm sure I could have fired a few hundred more with no change.

I noticed somewhat sluggish slide movement of the stripped slide on the frame compared with FP-10 or Mil-Comm TW-25B, which is what I've been using the last couple months. I had the CCO lubed with TW-25, and after about 75 rounds it was still smooth as as it was before the range session. The Valor still functioned 100%, which is what I fully expect. I may perform an extended 500 round + test with it sometime.

I'll probably put the Wilson lube back in the range bag for now, and stick with the TW-25.

Grizz

[Hoss in IL]

Grizz,
I was telling Noel the other day that I have been swamped here at home. I didn't get to the range the last time I posted on it. I should be shaking loose soon. There is an IDPA and USPSA shoot not far from me coming up (two days back to back). I'm going to try to go to one or both of the shoots. I imagine that if there is going to be a problem with the frog, it will show up.

Caesar uses TW25B and he likes it.

Does your Valor squeeze out a lot of FP-10?

I don't want to have to re-lube just because I want to shoot 300 or more rounds at a time. Lazy? Careless? I don't know but if it works, I'll be impressed.

I do like not having oil all over me when I'm finished shooting and I can never remember to put the oil in my range bag when I leave to shoot anyway.

[Grizzman]

If you go to one of the shoots, that should be a very good test....and a good excuse for a thread.

FP-10 works quite well, and seems to stay in place about as well as Mobile 1 10-30, but not as well as TW-25B.

Any excess TW-25B that's applied to the rails ends up on the rear of the slide....not down the sides of the frame.

At this point in time, if I had a 500 round day ahead of me, I'd likely apply TW-25B once to the rails, rack the slide 10 or so times to distribute it thoroughly, then add some more.

Grizz

[allrockabilly]

I put about 100 rounds through my Valor, which I had lubed up with Wilson Combat Ultima-Lube II grease.

After the session, more of the lube was squeezed out of the rail channel than I see with FP-10 ((makes sense cause it's thicker) but there was still plenty of lube where it counts. I'm sure I could have fired a few hundred more with no change.

I noticed somewhat sluggish slide movement of the stripped slide on the frame compared with FP-10 or Mil-Comm TW-25B, which is what I've been using the last couple months. I had the CCO lubed with TW-25, and after about 75 rounds it was still smooth as as it was before the range session. The Valor still functioned 100%, which is what I fully expect. I may perform an extended 500 round + test with it sometime.

I'll probably put the Wilson lube back in the range bag for now, and stick with the TW-25.

Grizz



Yea I could see the grease doing that. I have been using the Ultima Lube II (Universal) it's like a thick oil Not nearly as thick as their grease But it is still thick. I might try there Ultima Lube II(Oil) and see if that's any better. Some have been telling me it's the best but everyone has there own opinion and favorite product.

I really just need to break down and get some TW-25 since I am hearing good things about it. And after reading about it, it sounds great.

Thanks for the response.

-Ryan S

[MajO]

I have starting to apply Frog Lube to my firearms, but have been having some problems. How do you keep the guns from jumping out of the pan, when you put them in the sun, to heat up? :bs:

I am not sure how well it works, but it sure goes on easy and smells better than Hoppe's No.9 and other petro based products. It almost seems like Lanoline (remember the days of Brylcream?) :mob:

It will be interesting to see how it works over time.

Best wishes,

[Hoss in IL]

Ok, I finally got a chance to shoot again today. Total round count on the CBOB and Springfield GI since I first applied the Frog Lube is 550 rounds, factory ammo and lead reloads, (I need to make some reloads real soon, I'm running out!) through each pistol with no cleaning, until today. I know 550 rounds isn't exactly a torture test but it's what I have done so far. Both pistols cycled fine all the way through.

I didn't take pictures of the Springfield because the carbon and soot didnt' show up too good in the pictures on a black pistol. So here are the before and after pictures of the CBOB.

Dirty.....

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To me, the pistol didn't look that bad. Like I said I was shooting cheap factory ammo and lead reloaded with Bullseye, not the cleanest burning. The next picture is of the micro-fiber rag that comes with the Frog Lube kit to wipe down the pistol. I wiped all of the surfaces that I could reach with it and used the Q-tips for the rails.
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Here are the "cleaned" pictures.....

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I'm satisfied with it so far. It has done what it claims. Cleaning the pistols was easy.
All I did was wipe them off with the rag, no scrubbing, and Q-tip. I know I missed a little spot between the disconnector and ejector but I wiped it off after I looked at the pictures. I was in a hurry trying to get pictures taken before a huge thunder storm hit. The barrel even cleaned out very nice with a couple of patches.

I ran a lubed patch down the barrel again and applied some of the liquid lube to the rails with a Q-tip before I put them back together.

I'll keep y'all updated after more rounds. I'm going to try to stretch out the round count next time.

Take care,

Hoss

[MajO]

Hoss,

Thanks for the update. It seems to work as advertised.

Best wishes.