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Southpawmark
09-17-2011, 10:58 PM
Hey all:

I could sure use some help here! I am a bit confused after looking at various websites regarding the NXS series of scopes.

I was considering the following versions of the Nightforce scopes if they are in fact offered this way.

5.5-22x50 NXS Zero Stop NP-R1 Illuminated recticle not sure on .250moa or .1 Mil Radian? suggestions would be nice.

8-32x50 NXS Zero Stop NP-R1 Illuminated recticle .250 moa or .1 Mil Radian?

3.5-15x50 NXS F1 Zero Stop NP-R1 Illuminated recticle .250 moa or .1 Mil Radian?

If anyone knows if these configurations are offered online i sure would appreciate the link.

Been looking on www.opticsplanet.com and the top heading says illuminated recticle, go to the middle of the page where you can select the options and i cannot find these scopes offered with an illuminated recticle with Zero Stop.

Any help or clarifications would be appreciated! TIA

Grizzman
09-18-2011, 04:20 AM
I'll give a quick response now before fallsing asleep. All NXS non-bench rest Nightforce scopes come with an illuminated reticle as standard.

All NXS non-bench rest scopes come with zero stop as an option.

All NXS series scopes come with turret adjustments of 1/4 MOA or .1mil rad adjustment.

Optics Planet may only list some options available.

Grizz

Southpawmark
09-18-2011, 10:30 AM
Thank you for the clarification my friend.

What click ratio do you prefer?

iGun
09-18-2011, 12:15 PM
What is your primary use for the scope? What rifle?

Southpawmark
09-18-2011, 01:08 PM
LMT308MWS, targets at the range & hunting at around 50-150 yards. Thinking about the 5.5-22x50 or 5.5-22x56 with zero stop. But which would be better? .250 MOA or .1Mil Radian?

I've used 1/8 and 1/4 what's the difference with .1mil radian? I know there is a premium for .1mil radian and could make a better decision if I knew the difference. TIA

iGun
09-18-2011, 02:12 PM
LMT308MWS, targets at the range & hunting at around 50-150 yards. Thinking about the 5.5-22x50 or 5.5-22x56 with zero stop. But which would be better? .250 MOA or .1Mil Radian?

I've used 1/8 and 1/4 what's the difference with .1mil radian? I know there is a premium for .1mil radian and could make a better decision if I knew the difference. TIA

Hey Southpawmark,

This is a really complex topic, and I'll try to point you toward some information so you can make an informed decision about this expensive purchase.

Background reading: http://demigodllc.com/articles/practical-long-range-rifle-shooting-equipment/
http://demigodllc.com/articles/intro-long-range-rifle-scopes/?p=1

My opinion: Your stated use (close-mid range shooting) is not a good match for any of the scopes you have listed, unless you will be trying to hit minuscule targets (2-4").

I would go with a red dot or a 1-4x optic for 50-150 yds., and at most an 8x top end.

Those high mag scopes are for 1000+ yard precision shooting, varmint, or benchrest. You need a low mag, wide field of view for 50 yards.

I strongly prefer a matched reticle and knob system, so I can range, holdover, and correct in the same angular units as my knobs (mil/mil). A mil/moa system makes no sense to me unless you are so used to moa that you do the calculations in your sleep.

I'm happy to answer more questions as needed, and to recommend particular optics if you like.

Cheers

Grizzman
09-18-2011, 02:44 PM
I agree completely with iGun on this. Magnification really isn't needed at this range unless the targets are small. A 1-4 zoom or a ACOG should allow you make easy hits at inside of 150 yards.

Irons are another viable option. I was making hits (offhand) on an 18" target at 150 or so (the battery in my rangefinder died) yards with three different battle rifles yesterday.

I forgot to add that zero stop is mostly helpful for very long range shooting. It makes it easier to return it back to zero after turning it multiple full rotations. Mine doesn't have it.

Grizz

iGun
09-18-2011, 03:02 PM
If you are in the market for a $2k optic, here's a possibility:
http://www.elcansightingsystems.com/products/dual_role_sights.php

I have an Elcan Specter DR 1-4x in 5.56. It was worth every penny. The 1.5-6x 7.62 optic looks like the perfect match for what you are planning on doing with this rifle.

Southpawmark
09-18-2011, 07:06 PM
Appreciate all the help and assistance. It will be a nightforce scope due to my astigmatism in my eye. I tried the Eotech and other brand of red dot sights which worked for me out to 50 yards. Could not get the benefit of these sights past 50 yards.

Astigmatism is not bad, but it is enough to have me pick up the nightforce NXS.

Decided on the 5.5-22x56 NXS .250moa with Zero Stop. I have the red dot mounted at the 1 o'clock position for close shots and will mount the ND3 Laser Designator above the scope for night illumination.

Thanks to everyone who helped me out with this decision.

Sheepdog
09-18-2011, 09:32 PM
I love the 5.5x22 NXS I have several of them all mounted on heavy rifles. Here is the one I use on lighter rifles. http://nightforceoptics.com/SCOPES_OVERVIEW/COMPACT_NXS_MODELS_/compact2_5-10x32nxs_/compact_2_5-10x32_nxs.html

Southpawmark
09-18-2011, 10:54 PM
That's a nice one sheepdog!

Southpawmark
09-19-2011, 01:16 PM
Just got off the phone with optics planet. They have a huge inventory on the nightforce scopes. Ordered the 5-22x50 NXS NP-R1 Zero Stop and should be here hopefully this Saturday with ground shipping.

Nice to know that I did not have to wait the 6 month period.

Sheepdog
09-19-2011, 04:24 PM
Did you get Nightforce rings too? Be sure to read mounting instructions! Congratulations!

allrockabilly
09-19-2011, 08:45 PM
Yea congrats,

I will probably go with a NF NXS as well eventually but I just received an order I placed a few days ago.

I got an LMT 20" barrel for my MWS.
I got a new PWS-FSC30 Comp (Grizz I need your help with this new style one that came with the shims).
I went with a Trijicon 2.5-10x56.
And an American defense Recon mount 30mm (I kinda screwed up though, I should have gotten one with a 20 or 30 MOA Cant to give me more distance. I know it's not the 5-20x50 Trijicon but the 2.5-10x56 should get me out pretty far. By the way Trijicon - excellent scope, crystal clear, very nice. I just got it but now I'm thinking of selling it to turn around and get the 5-20x50 which has the tactical style turrets, I should have just spent the extra 200...

Well I'll try to see how far out I can get my Trijicon Accupoint and go from there but the NF is calling my name or the 5-20x50 Accupoint.

Anyways congrats I am sure you love your LMT just as much as I love mine. I do want to try one of those WCI comps you have....

Southpawmark
09-19-2011, 09:49 PM
Love the update on the MWS, WCI has a facebook page under WCI Products, congrats on the scope, nice optics.

Can't wait for the 2nd LMT308MWS to arrive so i can get the NXS mounted and dialed in.

Should hopefully be here first weeks in October.

Southpawmark
09-19-2011, 09:53 PM
Here is his facebook page for the WCI Titanium Muzzle Brake when you're ready.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000552392164

Thanks for the update on the MWS.

allrockabilly
09-20-2011, 12:44 PM
Love the update on the MWS, WCI has a facebook page under WCI Products, congrats on the scope, nice optics.

Can't wait for the 2nd LMT308MWS to arrive so i can get the NXS mounted and dialed in.

Should hopefully be here first weeks in October.

Here is his facebook page for the WCI Titanium Muzzle Brake when you're ready.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000552392164

Thanks for the update on the MWS.




Yea its an awesome rifle. I really want a Nightforce NXS as well. So I am sure I will be getting one as soon as I can get the money together, there not cheap :rolleyes:

Thanks for the link, I will be ordering one of the WCI muzzle brakes soon.

Thanks, again.

Southpawmark
09-23-2011, 10:21 PM
Nightforce arrived today. Awesome scope! Waiting on the 20moa scope mount to arrive next week.

Grizzman
09-23-2011, 11:26 PM
They work.................and then some.

Enjoy.

Grizz

allrockabilly
09-24-2011, 08:10 AM
Nightforce arrived today. Awesome scope! Waiting on the 20moa scope mount to arrive next week.


I am so jealous :(


No, but that's awesome, pics??? Did you get the NP-R1 Reticle? I would actually like to see how the Reticle looks lit up.

I'm jealous. I will have one.

Can't wait to see pics, even if it's just some scope porn Ellison

-Ryan S

Southpawmark
09-26-2011, 11:42 AM
Here's the link to the photo's

http://m1124.photobucket.com/albums/LMTRifles/Snapbucket/?pbauth=1_uLEBonVPfaLdh1h3YMYz2cDrcGb9sYQ%2FLokw1X GfQkaGUMJortr84o4J4Q8jQbGqeqtVUU5i2BB7a6iF0YR3D6uw f3Urg9%2Bl6N2WWyEe13j8TFjKDha%2BZS82X8unbSAAU5WTww l%2FY%2FNC7QETwYb3iESk4Xuo6hAr%2FYfSeLt2YIA%3D

Southpawmark
09-26-2011, 11:44 AM
Thanks Grizz & Ryan. These are the best shots I could get of the scope and recticle at this time. Link is below!
http://m1124.photobucket.com/albums/LMTRifles/Snapbucket/?pbauth=1_uLEBonVPfaLdh1h3YMYz2cDrcGb9sYQ%2FLokw1X GfQkaGUMJortr84o4J4Q8jQbGqeqtVUU5i2BB7a6iF0YR3D6uw f3Urg9%2Bl6N2WWyEe13j8TFjKDha%2BZS82X8unbSAAU5WTww l%2FY%2FNC7QETwYb3iESk4Xuo6hAr%2FYfSeLt2YIA%3D