TAC Compact Ejection Port

[DrHenley]

RIA TAC Compact - Had a seemingly minor issue at the range with the brass being ejected forward. Normally not a big deal but I was at an indoor range and I could not retrieve most of the brass.

I got to looking at the ejector to see what was different about it. It looked the same length and shape as my Sig Ultra, which ejects normally.

I was able to retrieve a few cases and got to looking at them and they have a nasty dent.
http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.php?albumid=98&pictureid=818

So I got to looking at the ejection port and comparing it to my Sig Ultra:
http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.php?albumid=98&pictureid=819
http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.php?albumid=98&pictureid=820

The flaring is radically different on the two pistols. I have to think this has something to do with the ejection anomaly. Apparently the brass is hitting a sharp corner and instead of rolling off of it, it is rebounding forward - probably because the corner is cutting so deep into the brass. It's not just a dent, it's cutting into the brass, making it unsuitable to reload.

Normally I would get out the dremel and start smoothing out the corners, but this gun is Parkerized.

Any words of advise?

[Sheepdog]

This may be a good place to start. I have found it very helpful.

http://www.cotep.org/forum/showthread.php?t=566

[DrHenley]

I put a hundred rounds though it this afternoon to see if I could detect brass smears on the edges. Here is what it looks like:
http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.php?albumid=98&pictureid=821

That confirms my suspicion that the ejection port is flared in the wrong place! The Sig Ultra is flared right where the case is hitting the ejection port on the RIA. Will RIA help me with this or am I going to have to get out the dremel myself?

[Sheepdog]

Send a PM to Auto mag and see what he says.

[Sheepdog]

Just looking at some of mine. I still think the extractor is the culprit. The reason the Sig is cut like that is because of the external extractor. Maybe Dave will be along and have some ideas.

[Riverpigusmc]

looks sharp on the upper edge to me...looks like that's where the brass is hitting. Is it a new pistol?

[DrHenley]

looks sharp on the upper edge to me...looks like that's where the brass is hitting. Is it a new pistol?

You can plainly see the brass smears on the sharp edges. If it weren't Parkerized, I'd have already gotten out the dremel.
http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.php?albumid=98&pictureid=821

Yes, new pistol, second trip to the range.

[Riverpigusmc]

PM John, then call customer service. May be an incorrect flare, however with a compact, may be as easy to fix as changing the recoil spring due to timing

[DrHenley]

John?

[Riverpigusmc]

John?

Automag. Works for RIA, may be able to guide ya through the process

[Pawpaw]

My RIA compact is flared exactly the same way yours is and it does not dent the brass like that.

I suspect your extractor may be a little tight.

[sdmc530]

My RIA compact is flared exactly the same way yours is and it does not dent the brass like that.

I suspect your extractor may be a little tight.

I would agree but I am no smith. I would try to adjust your extractor it looks like its a bit tight.

[DrHenley]

Does altering the ejector and extractor constitute "Unauthorized Gunsmithing"???

(which voids the warranty)

"If the firearm was modified and/or repaired by an unqualified gunsmith without permission from Armscor, then the warranty will be void."

[Sheepdog]

I would not think adjusting the extractor would be considered gunsmithing.

[Riverpigusmc]

Does altering the ejector and extractor constitute "Unauthorized Gunsmithing"???

(which voids the warranty)

"If the firearm was modified and/or repaired by an unqualified gunsmith without permission from Armscor, then the warranty will be void."

Bending the extractor to adjust tension won't void the warranty...filing on the ejector may. Dave Waits has an extensive thread on all this in the gunsmithing sub forum

[Sheepdog]

I already posted the link. I also PM'd John.

[AutoMag]

I already posted the link. I also PM'd John.

I also think it may be extractor tension but I have sent this thread for Arnel to look at for me.:)

[DrHenley]

Since it does not affect function, I am hesitant to tinker with the extractor and ejector. I bought a Colt Series-80 that had the extractor tinkered with before I bought it, and I spent countless hours bending and filing the extractor trying to get it to work right. No matter what I did, it was still a Jam-o-matic until I replaced the extractor with a Wilson Bulletproof Extractor.

Probably why I don't mind external extractors, they just work (except MIMbers)

To me it seems a simple matter of removing the sharp edges that catch the brass.