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[FfNJGTFO]

Originally Posted by BlackKnight

Yes, you may. It actually makes it easier if you know how and have the second part to the stripper clips that goes on the magazines. It's meant to load 10 rounds at a time into the magazines.

Thanks! I'll have to look into one of those "Stripper Loaders."

[Caleb]

Originally Posted by FfNJGTFO

Thanks! I'll have to look into one of those "Stripper Loaders."

That’s called a limousine.


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[BlackKnight]

Here's a quick video on how they're supposed to work.

[Pawpaw]

According to Sportsmans Outdoor >LINK

it comes with a stripper clip guide (also called a "spoon" by GIs). You just clip the spoon onto your mag & slip the stripper clip into the spoon. Then you just push on the top round and all 10 slide into the mag.

Be careful not to slide your thumb down the stripper clip. It can cut.

[FfNJGTFO]

Another Update: Unfortunately, the deal for the TAC-OPS Delta-51 LR rifle fell through. Simply enough, the TAC-OPS guy refused to quote me the full price for the weapon in writing. He always wanted me to contact him "by phone" to conduct all the price negotiations and, each time I did, the price went up another $1000.00. First time I called it was (roughly)$6000.00. At the next call, it was $7200.00. And he would never put in writing what that price covered (i.e weapon itself, options, optics, shipping, etc.). For all I know, I could fork over all that cash only to have him say (before final delivery), "Sorry.... it will cost another $3000.00..." And then where would I be?



I killed the deal. Too many red flags. So, now I'm looking at some other "stock built" LR rifles. Much less expensive (i.e. in the $1-2K range) and readily available. I see items from such brands as "Savage Arms," "Tikka," "HS Precision" and others. I'd appreciate your thoughts on which brands you'd recommend. I'm also seeing a caliber with which I'm not familiar (260 Remington). Is that a recommended caliber?


Thanks all! "When one door closes, another opens."

[Caleb]

Good choice in bailing on that cluster.

What max range are you looking at shooting?

I have one of my LR rifles for sale in the classifieds. It’ll shoot out to 900yds and hit with >10mph crosswinds if you do your part.


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[DrHenley]

Originally Posted by FfNJGTFO

I'm also seeing a caliber with which I'm not familiar (260 Remington). Is that a recommended caliber?

Nothing inherently wrong with the 260 Remmy cartridge itself, but Remington screwed the pooch with the rifles they chambered for it when it first came out. The problem comes when you put it in a short action rifle and then don't have enough magazine length to seat it out enough for heavier bullets that you need for LR. So Remington optimized the rifles for 120 grain bullets...which kinda defeated the whole purpose of the cartridge.

With standard short action magazines you would need to seat the base of a heavy bullet DEEP into the case, reducing powder capacity. The Creedmoor solves this by using a shorter case leaving more room in a short action magazine for the bullet, and then raising the max pressure to allow the same performance as the 260 Remmy in a shorter case. The 6.5 Lapua takes it one step farther by shortening the case even more and using an even higher max pressure (blown primers are common in the Lapua).

In a single shot rifle you have no such limitations. I know of LR target shooters that love the 260 Remmy, but then they have single shot target rifles.

I had a single shot falling block chambered for it at one time, but the barrel was too light leading to rapid heat buildup in the barrel. Again, not the fault of the cartridge itself.

[FfNJGTFO]

Originally Posted by DrHenley

Nothing inherently wrong with the 260 Remmy cartridge itself, but Remington screwed the pooch with the rifles they chambered for it when it first came out. The problem comes when you put it in a short action rifle and then don't have enough magazine length to seat it out enough for heavier bullets that you need for LR. So Remington optimized the rifles for 120 grain bullets...which kinda defeated the whole purpose of the cartridge.

With standard short action magazines you would need to seat the base of a heavy bullet DEEP into the case, reducing powder capacity. The Creedmoor solves this by using a shorter case leaving more room in a short action magazine for the bullet, and then raising the max pressure to allow the same performance as the 260 Remmy in a shorter case. The 6.5 Lapua takes it one step farther by shortening the case even more and using an even higher max pressure (blown primers are common in the Lapua).

In a single shot rifle you have no such limitations. I know of LR target shooters that love the 260 Remmy, but then they have single shot target rifles.

I had a single shot falling block chambered for it at one time, but the barrel was too light leading to rapid heat buildup in the barrel. Again, not the fault of the cartridge itself.

OK Thanks! I'll most likely stick with .308 Winchester. There are some good deals on those. Is Savage Arms a good manufacturer? I see some good choices for those. Also, how about Tikka?

[FfNJGTFO]

Originally Posted by Caleb

Good choice in bailing on that cluster.

What max range are you looking at shooting?

I have one of my LR rifles for sale in the classifieds. It’ll shoot out to 900yds and hit with >10mph crosswinds if you do your part.


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I was looking at 1000 yds, max. I am checking the list items I see for effective range, but few disclose that. I have to cross check against the manufacturer's specs for the rifle.

[DrHenley]

1000 is possible with a 308 but only with certain bullets. I think the big thing now is what ammo or reloading bullets can you find?

Here are a couple of loads available at Midway that will do 1000 yards easily with very low drag bullets. But you will have to try different loads to see which one the rifle likes, and at the moment, there isn't much available, either loaded ammo or component bullets.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/953728886

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102335492