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Darn....im in an airport in st maarten, and cant see the video...... Haveto wait till i get home. this vacation sucked. Rained every day (for five minutes) ill be in chat tonite
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He can get his own damn tissue...
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these rifles can fire out of battery. They have floating firing pins and will slam fire. when the 1st rounds primer looked like that i prolly would have stopped shooting it
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Been there many times Mike.
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I pointed this to , but I would think with a slam fire a garand would throw a two, maybe three shot burst. The vid does not support that, to me anyway. I am thinking worn parts, maybe headspace problem.
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1.) First of all, this was a fairly new rifle. It was built by a reputable Smith. Had a fairly new indexed and headspaced barrel . 2.) The Bolt. Garands have what's called a Safety-Bridge system in them. This system holds the floating firing-pin's hook or, Hammer-face back until the Bolt goes into battery. Then it is cammed onto place at some speed(This is why a chambered round in a Garand will have a slight dimple in the primer-face). There is nothing else to cause the primer to function in the receiver. If one looks at the prints or, is mechanically inclined enough to understand the way it's built and designed, you will see that in the event of an over-pressure blowout, the gas is directed down into the bottom of the receiver. Once it gets down there the Stock, being the softest material involved, splits from said pressure.The only time you'll get a barrel-bulge or split is if a foriegn object is in the barrel. 3.) Out of battery detonation. Didn't happen here. Gentleman involved stated it happened on a trigger-pull. This means the bolt was fully into battery. Trigger and hammer won't fire if the gun is assembled and out of battery. Also, the reason the guy had to bang on the Op-Rod Handle to break the bolt loose. The tear right at the base was in part, due to the M1's Extractor. While I have no doubts as to what happened, an Over-pressure load, pure and simple, If you look at the pic below this para, you'll see the M1's massive Extractor is in the exact position the casehead tear is. Also, you'll see two openings on the breechface, one at three O' clock and another at around nine O'Clock. These are pathways for over-pressure gases to travel down into the receiver. You'll also notice the sealing ring is not continuous, more pathways for gas. Ejector at six O'Clock and Extractor from 7 to 11 O'Clock. Here's what, in all probability happened. You have a newish barrel with probably a tight chamber and you have a steelcased round with an overload charge of powder. Now, steel cases do not act like a brass case does. Steel Cases do not expand or contract like brass cases. In this case the round, an obvious over-charge, ignites, the steel tries to expand but can't due to the chamber. There are only two ways for the gas to go, out behind the bullet, which will still present a high overload condition in the case or, out the weakest part of the case which is right above the casehead in the rebated area and this is what happened along with the case-body pressure-affixing itself to the inside of the chamber. When he tried to open the bolt by hitting on the Op-Rod handle the Extractor, in place, tore the already damaged casehead. As for the rounds going over-length while firing, can't happen in a Garand. The barrels, 30-06 or .308, have less than a 1/4" of leade. The bullet would simply catch the rifling and be pushed back into the case until the round chambered. Further, over 90% of Garand ammunition, military, commercial and reloaded doesn't employ a crimp. The bullets are held by Neck-Tension. Here's a pic of an En-Bloc of my 168SMK Match-loads, note there is no crimp. So, we had a case that couldn't expand or contract properly due to material used and an over-charge of powder plus a tight commercial chamber. Ka-Boom!
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Dave's #2 Point above
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Thanks for the lesson, Dave. I love learning more about my Garand.
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Why would a slam fire throw 3 rounds?
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