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Old 07-23-2013, 12:44 PM
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Default DW CCO: nosedives

I have a Dan Wesson CCO with Wilson Combat bulletproof slide release. I use Wilson 47OXCB 7 round magazines. The pistol has been through around 800 rounds over the course of a year, a mix of FMJ and defensive. My defensive round of choice for this pistol is currently Hornady XTP 200 grain.
When loading or reloading, I insert the magazine and hit the slide release.
My issue is this: just recently over the past month, I have started to receive nosedives in which the first round in the magazine pushes downward slightly during its forward movement, and hangs up on the feedramp base, with the bullet pushed in.
What could cause this? How come it is just now becoming an issue for me?
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:13 PM
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Have you checked the spring, the follower, and or cleaned the mag?
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:59 PM
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Have you checked the spring, the follower, and or cleaned the mag?
yes. not only have I done that, but it does this with all of my mags, which are all the 47OXCBs.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:06 PM
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It can sometimes be attributed to limp wristing. Let somebody else run the pistol w/ the same ammo and mags and see if the problem occurs. If so, try changing the springs in the mags.

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Old 07-23-2013, 05:12 PM
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factory or reloads?

How old are the mags?

How many rounds through them?

Does it noes dive when you release the slide using your hand not the slide release?

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Old 07-23-2013, 05:20 PM
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It can sometimes be attributed to limp wristing. Let somebody else run the pistol w/ the same ammo and mags and see if the problem occurs. If so, try changing the springs in the mags.
it only happens while loading, not while shooting, so thats a non-issue.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:22 PM
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factory or reloads?

How old are the mags?

How many rounds through them?

Does it noes dive when you release the slide using your hand not the slide release?

factory ammo
the mags are as old as the pistol, and are always loaded. they are only used in this pistol.
it only nosedives (so far) when using the slide release.
if the springs in these mags are already worn out, then maybe I should switch mags!
and I see you understand my name haha
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:27 PM
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What is happening then is the slide release is letting the slide go to slow. Some how the slide release is binding against something as you use it. Typically slide releases cause wear on the slide. Many people avoid this by releasing the slide with your hand not the release. There will be those that shout "You should be releasing the slide with your hand not the slide release." Put the original back in and see if it still binds. Are there any other swapped out parts?
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:28 PM
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That is the only swapped out part, and unfortunately like an idiot i dont have the original. damn.
anyone have a source for one?

and I just checked the pistol, and there are copper marks on the frame right below the barrel where the rounds are hitting. so they are definitely nosediving pretty low.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:30 PM
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Rack the gun by releasing the slide with your hands and see if you have a failure.

What are you using for lube? How often are you cleaning? when was the last time it was lubed or cleaned?
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