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Old 08-02-2014, 09:13 AM
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Just some FACTS about EBOLA. So were all on the same page about this decision to bring infected here. Yes they are Americans. They put themselves in great danger and took undue risk. Now we feel compelled to help them?

EBOLA "NO CURE":
http://health.usnews.com/health-news...oosts-survival

EBOLA has a 90% Fatality rate. Of 100 people infected only 10 will survive.

Currently there is no known form of Vaccine to prevent infection.

Ebola is spread "Still being confirmed" via contact with other humans.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/

Other "Direct Contact" diseases for comparison purposes:

•Anthrax -
•Coronavirus -
•Group A Streptococcus -
•Invasive Group B Streptococcal (GBS) -
•Haemophilus influenza -
•Legionellosis -
•Meningococcal Disease -
•MERS-CoV -
•MRSA -
•Plague -
•Strep pneumoniae -
•SARS -

Source "http://www.maine.gov/dhhs/mecdc/infectious-disease/epi/airborne/"

About "Immigrant Health" :

"Immigrants and refugees must undergo a medical exam as part of the immigration process for entry into the United States. The exam includes screening for any illness defined as a communicable disease of public health significance. All of these diseases can be easily spread between people. Those immigrants and refugees found to have these diseases may not enter the United States. "

"What diseases prevent non-U.S. citizens from coming to the United States?

Diseases that can prevent entry to the U.S. fall into three categories:

•Any of the following diseases: active tuberculosis, infectious syphilis, gonorrhea, infectious leprosy, chancroid, lymphogranuloma venereum, granuloma inguinale, and HIV infection. (HIV infection will be removed on January 4, 2010)

•Quarantinable diseases designated by any Presidential Executive Order. The current list of diseases includes cholera, diphtheria, infectious tuberculosis, plague, smallpox, yellow fever, viral hemorrhagic fevers, severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), and influenza caused by novel or re-emergent influenza (pandemic flu).

•Diseases reportable as a public health emergency of international concern to the World Health Organization under the International Health Regulations of 2005. These diseases currently include: polio, smallpox, SARS, pandemic flu and other public health emergencies of international concern."

Source of the above Immigrant Health Screening information:
http://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeeh...eneral-qa.html
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Old 08-02-2014, 10:02 AM
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Like Nancy Snyderman(can't stand her) stated on TV....usually these things will "burn themselves out". Let's translate that........Keep the people who have it in one place and treat them till they die.

So, transporting infected people to a country that has no known accounts of this disease does not seem like a stroke of brilliance.

For the conspiracy theorists. Could this disease turn America into a famine/disease infested Country? Could it be done on purpose? We only have but a handful of infectious disease centers, which would be full in hours if there were an outbreak. Id there a bigger plan here? Kill off the non productive baby boomers(weakend immune systems) and be left with the young left wingnuts that always vote Democrat? This could go on forever.....as conspircay theories do.

Fact is, if a few people who are infected start sneezing in the checkout line at Walmart in a few different states we are screwed.
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Old 08-02-2014, 01:57 PM
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HIV is much more difficult to transmit than Ebola. Yet HIV has spread to every corner of the earth.
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Old 08-02-2014, 02:04 PM
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HIV is much more difficult to transmit than Ebola. Yet HIV has spread to every corner of the earth.
I read today that scientists have used aerosol methods of spreading the disease in tests, and it worked. Seems that when transmitted that way it is not as deadly, which they cannot explain.

Here's my opinion.....It's deadly and should be kept quarantined, not imported.
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RARELY do you fly Ebola patients out of the infection zone. This IS one of those "rarely" events.
Why is that? Seems like they could ship a team and all necessary equipment there easier than sending them here one at a time. The stress of the move and all the complicated procedures seems more difficult than sending the help to them.
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Why is that? Seems like they could ship a team and all necessary equipment there easier than sending them here one at a time. The stress of the move and all the complicated procedures seems more difficult than sending the help to them.
You have a point.....during travel they needed evaluation to see if they could make it here. I wonder if they are gonna die anyway and are gonna be test cases for a vaccine.
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You have a point.....during travel they needed evaluation to see if they could make it here. I wonder if they are gonna die anyway and are gonna be test cases for a vaccine.
That is my thinking. Pretty risky move.
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That is my thinking. Pretty risky move.
Agreed...and I think more risk is in place now that bad people in the world, who study the Internet, have seen that Americans are chattering away about the possibility of that illness going viral here in the USA.

Would be real easy for them to plant sick people around the country and our infectious disease centers, doctors and hospitals would be overwhelmed in hours.
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Old 08-03-2014, 10:49 AM
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HIV is much more difficult to transmit than Ebola. Yet HIV has spread to every corner of the earth.
Excellent point Doc!!!! This is just asinine and leads me to start thinking crazy stuff could be in the works. I am simply stupefied by this move.
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I'm actually a lot more worried about the infections coming by the trainload across the southern border.
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At least 71 individuals from the three nations affected by the current Ebola outbreak have either turned themselves in or been caught attempting to illegally enter the U.S. by U.S. authorities between January 2014 and July 2014.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...Open-US-Border

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