Sailor Bars -- A Trip Back in Time -- Forever Gone (Part 1)

[Boats]

** WARNING ** There is some off color stuff in here. But it's absolutely necessary to give you the flavor of life in the Service back then.

** You have been warned. **

, , Jim (sorry if I've forgotten others), how many of these places have you hung out in? Me, at least five or six. Plus an even dozen or so not mentioned.

Hope it brings back fine memories.



Sailor Bars -- A great look at a vanished American Navy

Think John Bulls in Piraeus, Mamas in Naples, Jimmy the Greeks in Malta, Pauline’s in Olongapo, the Rio, the Admiral and the Three Sisters in Olongapo, Kaoshung, Pusan, Hotel Street in Honolulu, the Pearl City Tavern, Captain Harry's Blue Marlin Bar, the Savoy in Norfolk, Leos first and last Chance in Newport, and places in Key West where only submarine sailors were allowed! Think that was bad....go where only the EOD guys were allowed!! ...and they cavorted with marine mammals with no tits!!

We were paid to live a life of deprivation from fresh milk and eggs, from no beer for months at a time, and we had to smell stinky socks, smelly wet suits, and diesel fuel forfuqinever, and a life with a few shots over the bow of some Mideast creep that wanted to threaten the US of A, but what a life we lived when we got ashore in the Med or in WestPac!! We wuz SAILORs and we earned every right to be men ashore as we were at sea. God, I miss it. I'd go back tomorrow, particularly if I could be on a US flagship off Somalia!!.

Our favorite liberty bars were unlike no other watering holes or dens of iniquity inhabited by seagoing men. They had to meet strict standards to be in compliance with the acceptable requirement for a sailor beer-swilling dump.

The first and foremost requirement was a crusty old gal serving suds. Even the CPO Mess with Nora and Doris in Charleston didn’t quite match up to our overseas standards!! How about Sue in Hong Kong? She could Di-rect your young butt to the best places in the Far East and even knew your ships schedule!!

She had to be able to wrestle King Kong to parade rest: Be able to balance a tray with one hand, knock sailors out of the way with the other hand and skillfully navigate through a roomful of milling around drunks telling lies and drinking San Magoo. On slow nights, she had to be the kind of gal who would give you a back scratch or put her foot on the table so you could admire her new ankle bracelet some "mi gook" brought her back from a Hong Kong liberty.

A good barmaid had to be able to whisper sweet nothings in your young sailor ear like, "I love you, Baby, no shit, you buy me Honda??. Air conditioned helicopter? Rice steamer? Levis?" Pusan was particularly good at the Levis!!

"Buy a pack of Clorets and chew up the whole thing before you get within heaving range of any gal you ever want to see again."

And, from the crusty old gal behind the bar "Hey dickheads, I know we have a crowd tonight, but if any of you guys find the head facilities fully occupied and start pissing down the floor drain, you're gonna find yourself scrubbing the deck with your white hats!"

"I ain't your Mom and I ain't cleanin' up after your dumbass."

The barmaids had to be able to admire great tattoos, look at pictures of ugly bucktooth kids and smile, be able to help haul drunks to cabs and comfort 19 year-olds who had lost someone he thought loved him in a dark corner booth. They could look at your ship's identification shoulder tab and tell you the names of the Skippers back to the time you were a Cub Scout. They knew where your ship was going before you got there and they knew where you were going after that!

If you came in after a late night maintenance problem and fell asleep with a half-eaten Slim-Jim in your hand, they tucked your peacoat around you, put out the cigarette you left burning in the ashtray and replaced the warm draft you left sitting on the table with a cold one when you woke up.

Why?

Find out in Part 2

[Boats]

** Note the WARNING in Part 1 **

Why?

Simply because they were one of the few people on the face of the earth that knew what you did, and appreciated what you were doing. And if you treated them like a decent human being and didn't drive 'em nuts by playing songs they hated on the juke box, they would lean over the back of the booth and park their soft warm tits on your neck when they sat two San Miguel beers in front of you ( and asked for that air-conditioned helicopter)!!.

And the Paki or Indian or Bangladeshi table wipe down guy and glass washer, trash dumper, deck swabber and paper towel replacer: The guy had to have baggy tweed pants and a gold tooth and a grin like a 1950 Buick.. And a name like "Ramon", "Juan", "Pedro" or "Tico" or even Achmed. He had to smoke unfiltered Luckies, Camels or Raleighs . He wiped the tables down with a sour wash rag that smelled like a billy goat's crotch and always said, "How are choo navee mans tonight?" He was the indispensable man. The guy with credentials that allowed him to borrow Slim-Jims, Beer Nuts and pickled hard boiled eggs from other beer joints when they ran out where he worked. He knew who to call when the callin' was required: taxi, whorehouse, shore patrol, or flophouse.

The establishment itself. The place had to have walls covered with ship and squadron plaques with beer labels plastered on the ceiling. The walls were adorned with enlarged unit patches and the dates of previous deployments. A dozen or more old, yellowed photographs of fellows named "Buster", "Chicago", "P-Boat Barney", "Flaming Hooker Harry", "Malone", "Jimmy Brown", " Honshu Harry", "Johnny McCain" (yep him), "Jackson", "Douche Bag ", and "Capt Slade Cutter" decorated any unused space. It had to have the obligatory Michelob, Pabst Blue Ribbon and "Beer Nuts sold here" neon signs. An eight-ball mystery beer tap handle and signs reading:

"Your mother does not work here, so clean away your frickin' trash."

"Keep your hands off the barmaid."

"Don't throw butts in urinal."

"Barmaid's word is final in settling bets."

"Free beer tomorrow".

"Take your fights out in the alley behind the bar!"

"Owner reserves the right to waltz your worthless sorry ass outside."

"Shipmates are responsible for riding herd on their ship/squadron drunks."

This was typical signage found in any good liberty bar.

You had to have a juke box built along the lines of a Sherman tank loaded with Hank Williams, Mother Maybelle Carter, Johnny Horton, Johnny Cash and twenty other crooning goobers nobody ever heard of. The damn thing had to have "La Bamba", Alpert's "Lonely Bull" and Johnny Cash's "Don't Take Your Guns to Town". The furniture in a real good liberty bar had to be made from coal mine shoring lumber and was not fully acceptable until it had 600 cigarette burns and your ship's numbers or "FTN" carved into it. The bar had to have a brass foot rail and at least six Slim-Jim containers, an oversized glass cookie jar full of Beer-Nuts, a jar of pickled hard boiled eggs that could produce rectal gas emissions that could shut down an UNREP station, and big glass containers full of something called Pickled Pigs Feet and Polish Sausage.

Only drunk Chiefs and starving Ethiopians ate pickled s feet and unless the last three feet of your colon had been manufactured by Midas, you didn't want to get anywhere near the Polish Napalm Dogs.

No liberty bar was complete without a couple of hundred faded ship or airplane pictures and a "Shut the hell up!" sign taped on the mirror behind the bar along with several rather tasteless naked lady pictures. The pool table felt had to have at least three strategic rips as a result of drunken competitors and balls that looked as if a gorilla baby had teethed on the sonuvabitches.

Liberty*bars were home and it didn't matter what country, state, or city you were in. When you walked into a good liberty bar, you felt at home. These were also establishments where 19 year-old kids received an education available nowhere else on earth. You learned how to "tell" and "listen" to sea stories.

Some learned about sex at $10.00 a pop! -- from professional ladies who taught you things your high school biology teacher didn't know were anatomically possible. You learned how to make a two cushion bank pool shot, play card games you had never heard of, and how to toss down a beer and a shot of Suntori known as a "depth charge."

We were young, and a helluva long way from home. We were pulling down crappy wages for twenty-four hours a day, seven days a-week availability and loving the life we lived. ($81 bucks a month for E3 and $ 158 bucks for an E5, $220 for an officer). We didn't know it at the time, but our association with the men we served with forged us into the men we became. And a lot of that association took place in bars where we shared the stories accumulated in our, up to then, short lives. We learned about women and the sweethearts back home, that life could be tough on a gal, especially one with a young baby, and it wasn’t so generous on us either. We had long lonely nights to think about them, and worry about our parents back home, and where our next duty station might take us.

While many of our classmates were attending college or in the Air Force, we were getting an education slicing through the green rolling seas in WestPac, experiencing the orgasmic rush of a night cat shot, the heart pounding drama of the return to the ship with the gut wrenching arrestment to a pitching deck. The hours of tedium, boring holes in the sky late at night, experiencing the periodic discomfort of turbulence, marveling at the creation of St. Elmo's Fire, and sometimes having our reverie interrupted with stark terror when a shipmate was washed overboard or killed on a working dive.

But when we came ashore on liberty, we could rub shoulders with some of the finest men we would ever know, in bars our mothers would never have approved of, in saloons and cabarets that would live in our memories forever.

Long live those liberties in WestPac and in the Med! They were the greatest teachers about life and how to live it.

Shame, but even talking about those places will get your young ass kicked out of the US Navy today.

[NAMVET72]

Yes you missed a few, and it wasn't Fun or was it to watch friends get clammed shelled by the Shore Patrol or escorted out of the Bars bt the M.P.s.
Yes, there were alot of Patying and Drinking, but also alot of friends and friends made..............

[Boats]

Originally Posted by NAMVET72

Yes you missed a few, and it wasn't Fun or was it to watch friends get clammed shelled by the Shore Patrol or escorted out of the Bars bt the M.P.s.
Yes, there were alot of Patying and Drinking, but also alot of friends and friends made..............

I think most of us choose to remember the good parts, Doc. The mind is a thing... honestly, I don't remember so much bad, though if I tried hard I probably could. Now why would I want to do that?

Tom

[NAMVET72]

Originally Posted by Boats

I think most of us choose to remember the good parts, Doc. The mind is a thing... honestly, I don't remember so much bad, though if I tried hard I probably could. Now why would I want to do that?

Tom

Hey what about the tattoo parlors, the monkey meat, or kids diving in S__t River, or the Local PD carrying uzis.

Or even the formaldahyde hang over the next morning hang over or the forever sentence I will love you along time..............etc............

[Boats]

Good ones! I managed to avoid the tattoo parlors, though there was this one time... another story for another day.

San Magoo was killer stuff. I haven't had a hangover like that in 30 years. Hope I never do again

You know in Jamaica, San Magoo's not too bad. No formaldehyde.

[NAMVET72]

Come On break out some of your Old Pics of yourself and scan them, and post them.............

Don't be afraid we all know the Stories of the wain Mates of the NAVY.................I bet your better half doesn't know what you were like way back when......

[Riverpigusmc]

The joints in Olongopo? Seen 'em all, been thrown out of a few. Same with Angeles City. Pohang South Korea was....interesting. And the clubs in Kinville and Henoko on Okinawa were monumental. Ah, but Court Street in Jacksonville NC...did I ever tell ya about me, a Corpsman, a CS grenade and a ti**y bar on Court Street? It resulted in a Court Martial.

Sea story for another time

[NAMVET72]

Originally Posted by Riverpigusmc

The joints in Olongopo? Seen 'em all, been thrown out of a few. Same with Angeles City. Pohang South Korea was....interesting. And the clubs in Kinville and Henoko on Okinawa were monumental. Ah, but Court Street in Jacksonville NC...did I ever tell ya about me, a Corpsman, a CS grenade and a ti**y bar on Court Street? It resulted in a Court Martial.

Sea story for another time

Come on you Two tell us the Sea Stories...............

[23eagle]

Almost brings a tear to your eye.
And a "How did I survive that s#*t" thought.
Oh, the times I woke up in my bunk wondering, "How did I get here?"

It was the best of times, and the worst of times. No doubt.

Thanks for the memories!