Assault on our 2A imminent!

[pitor]

Hi guys.

I have been watching the news. They're turning the full attention of this issue to guns, the fact the shooter used a machine gun of type to mow down the audience. The rhetoric is non-stop. We are going to see a full assault on our right to carry and more importantly to OWN (ie: AR15).

Stay vigilant, donate, support, be vocal when it counts the most.

Thoughts and prayers with Las Vegas, always.

[MajO]

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.php?albumid=102&pictureid=1182


Too soon?

;)

[pitor]

The perceived issue of how easy is to get a gun in America (harder than most third world country black market) is being exploited by every news outlet. They want congress or senate to act on gun control, everyone rallying up behind this emotional response! I feel it's gonna get ugly.

But thank goodness some good voices of reason also being interviewed, pro gun folks that are well spoken and eloquent.

[Riverpigusmc]

they ain't takin' nothing of mine. Not even my poodle shooter AR

[Caleb]

And this is why I ordered two stripped lowers earlier today.

[RKP]

And this is why I ordered two stripped lowers earlier today.

http://www.cotep.org/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

Have 4 stashed myself.

[pitor]

Something doesn't add up in all of this: 64 year old millionaire with a plane and several homes. His brother said he only owned couple of handguns yet police confiscated over 40 weapons between homes and hotel room. "No military training... No weapons training... No Police Record... and a "girlfriend" that deleted her social media accounts the day before this tragedy, and left the country.

So he altered some of his rifles to fire full auto, then stockpiled them in an expensive hotel room in broad daylight, and nothing looked strange by housekeeping or the thousands of cameras in Vegas? Apparently he built a window platform fire from, and no one in the hotel noticed? Fired from inside the window, setting off smoke alarms, because he was apparently concerned with his muzzle flash been seen from outside?

Im not buying this circus as of yet, starting to smell like BS...

[DrHenley]

Agreed. Things just don't add up here.

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.php?albumid=22&pictureid=888

[edgehill]

And accurately shot 5.56 over 1100 yards and it still had energy to be that deadly?

[Gatorade]

He had money to buy lots of guns. Let's estimate on the high end $2K per rifle? So $80K in guns and ammo? He wired $100,000 to the Philippines, so he had the cash covered. If you put a Do Not Disturb tag on your door knob, you won't be disturbed. When I visit hotels with our dog you bet your ass no one but my family better open that door. No reports of mauled maids so I can say our doors weren't opened. I think the shooting platform was just a chair or table from the room. If he made multiple trips with a guitar case, he would have blended right in. He was there for 4 days so he could have made quite a few trips. You don't need military training to shoot a slide fire into a crowd of 20,000 people. These weren't sniper shots, just spray and pray.

Not too hard to add it up but if you are looking for a sane reason to add up, you will never find it. The guy was a functioning psycho who kept the mask on well enough for no one to notice.

[Gatorade]

And accurately shot 5.56 over 1100 yards and it still had energy to be that deadly?

The bullets were dropping, think about people killed with bullets shot into the air when they come back down. Bullets don't just float down.

According to this site http://gundata.org/blog/post/223-ballistics-chart/

At 1000 yards it will still have 783 fps.

[DaFadda]

The bullets were dropping, think about people killed with bullets shot into the air when they come back down. Bullets don't just float down.

According to this site http://gundata.org/blog/post/223-ballistics-chart/

At 1000 yards it will still have 783 fps.

783 fps? That's almost as fast as a 45 acp!

[Gatorade]

783 fps? That's almost as fast as a 45 acp!

I am assuming of course that he used 5.56 ammo. 45 ACP uses a 230gr bullet and 5.56 uses either a 55gr or 62gr bullet. So as far as if I had to choose which to get hit with I would take the 5.56 of course. Remember he fired at least 1000 rounds. Possibly double that. He killed 58 and I think the injured was over 500. Not all 500 injuries were bullet wounds. Injuries from the crush to get away would have been included but with 20,000 people in a crowd and just raining bullets down it is easy to see how close to 600 people were injured or killed.