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Pappy 11-23-2011 10:34 AM

This is not good news if the barrel has not been stress relieved. You may have a warped barrel which changes POI when warmed up. Sorry to say this...

svandamme 11-23-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 8765)
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2 x 10 rounds @ 10 meters green is right handed, purple is lefthanded

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319975992.jpg


I first ran 50 rounds with a Ruger .22 as warm up...Which improved my .45 results considerably, all in all, i guess this answers my question : It was me, not the gun.
Quite happy with this result, especially since i'm a bit hungover this morning :D



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Originally Posted by Pappy (Post 9526)
This is not good news if the barrel has not been stress relieved. You may have a warped barrel which changes POI when warmed up. Sorry to say this...




I already indicated that the issue was fixed by training the operator.

Pappy 11-23-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 9527)
I already indicated that the issue was fixed by training the operator.

Did not notice this...but will wait till the hangover is gone....

Hodawg 05-17-2014 02:14 PM

Glad to hear you figured out the problem, svandamme.

Just for shirts and gurgles, in case this problem ever comes up again with another shooter, svandamme's situation sounds like a classic case of anticipating recoil. That causes most shooters to dive forward, hence a low shot. After a few magazines full, the shooter gets more relaxed and no longer anticipates recoil, then the shots come up to the POA.

Just a thought based on his description of events.

Ken

DaFadda 05-17-2014 04:18 PM

My take is that when the gun.......and you......are cold.....poi will be diferent. Once you warm up.....not the gun....that is the diff in poi. Try having a friend warm up the gun for u....then shoot it urself..... Post the results for us?

Hodawg 05-17-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFadda (Post 76563)
My take is that when the gun.......and you......are cold.....poi will be diferent. Once you warm up.....not the gun....that is the diff in poi. Try having a friend warm up the gun for u....then shoot it urself..... Post the results for us?

A good suggestion for ruling out metallurgical factors.

Dave Waits 05-17-2014 05:43 PM

The only time you'll see a cold-bore change of impact is in a long-barreled gun like a rifle and normally, it's usually the first round out of the tube.

DrHenley 05-17-2014 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 8765)
I first ran 50 rounds with a Ruger .22 as warm up...Which improved my .45 results considerably, all in all, i guess this answers my question : It was me, not the gun.

I think your grip loosens a bit when you get a little tired from gripping too tight and anticipting the recoil, allowing the muzzle to flip more. Warming up with another gun gets you past the too-tight grip phase.

I've noticed the same phenomenon, using a 22 first improves my groups considerably.


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