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Sure you seen the controversy over the deflated balls. Clyde never has to worry with his prunes always deflated....but.....here is what I say...

Brady knew, Belichick flew


What movie? I'm posting it all over news pages trying to get it viral.

Turk 182

_______ knew and Tyler flew!

Can't remember off the top of my head the first name.

"Zimmerman flew and Tyler knew"

They both knew nfl clueless. Most teams manipulate the balls buch of crap. Gidell is a moron! So tired of this give them a meaningless fine and move on like they always do

I don't like any sort of cheating.......I challenged some NJ friends to go have an affair and come home and tell their wife they were only half hard during sex. To get back to me and see how it works out for them

Aren't there more important things to report on the evening news for 20 minutes at a whack than the alleged deflating of footballs? The officials handled the balls before, during and after the game, if there was an issue shouldn't they have discovered it? They're supposed to be the pros on rules, etc. aren't they? The guy who intercepted Brady didn't find any discrepancies. Both an M.I.T. and a Harvard professor explained that if the balls were filled indoors, they would lose a certain amount of p.s.i. when they were moved and kept outside in colder temps. Haters are gonna hate, get over it sweetpeas, the Pats are gonna win the Super Bowl. So there!:p

Too true, especially the bolded :D

What part of MA are you in? I grew up in Plymouth, have lived in Carver, Middleboro, and Mansfield before heading south!

-scott

Hehehehe......I'm thinnin' out my facebook friends with stuff like this.

That was funny... but I gotta say BFD... If a deflated ball was the difference in that competition, I'd still be embarrassed to be a Colt, grasping at those kind of lame excuses... Besides, the Pats didn't have any problem catching the Colts ball during that game :D

I'm originally from New Bedford, but married a Fairhaven girl and am now living in East Fairhaven. I ride my scoot around Carver and Plymouth all the time.

Typical New England answer...Facts are it is NOT alleged. They were caught and the deflation was caught at halftime. The guy who intercepted at halftime is the player who turned the ball in to be checked. MIT and Harvard are both liberal pro Patriot schools, numerous REAL physicists have found it impossible for eleven of twenty four balls to deflate, all on one team's side. So your post is full of crap, your team cheats, your quarterback leaves his pregnant woman to knock up another woman, your coach has been busted and is shit scared of suspension when his attachment is ratted out. And someday, somebody will rat him out.

So there. The Seahawks are Superbowl Champions as they earned their way into the game. The non Patriots are cheaters who should be fined and DQ'd for cheating in professional sports.

And by the way, I was a Patriots fan till they were exposed as cheaters.

Double "so there"

I think they did something but here is what I really don't get.....Why didnt the refs notice right away? They touch the ball EVERY play....if they were so flat in the first quarter wouldn't they have noticed??? I really don't get that. They are the refs....its their job...That is one place where I don't understand how it got missed on field for so long.

If ya notice there is no official inquiry to your question. It is one of my questions too. There is a pic circulating showing a ref placing a ball on the field and his thumb is slightly indented. I won't post it here cause I cannot verify it. Of course there is alot of speculation on why the refs didn't feel it, or if they did and said nothing. But the fact is the NFL verified 11 of 12 were under inflated, only on the Patriots side. Belichick is a nervous wreck in news conferences, and get this.....A new reporter, at the Tom Brady news conference....

Reporter directly to Tom Brady: Is Tom Brady a cheater?

Brady's reply: I do not think Tom Brady is a cheater( I need to verify that those words are exact, but it's along those lines.)

Ummmm...that was yes or no question. Brady sidestepped it deliberately.

To me this has nothing to do with the score. I'll never say the patriots were gonna lose. I will say they cheated.

E. Fairhaven huh? Ever been to Concordia marina? :D

The one in Dartmouth? I've been by it many times, never walked the grounds though, don't own a boat!

MilkmanJoe, typical New England answer? Not really. Although I don't have any love for the eggheads at Harvard, what they said makes sense. My buddy has an inflatable dinghy, that has to be pumped up when he floats it on colder water because it loses pressure, so the theory makes sense to me. Let's face it, cheating is not a rarity in professional sports. Where was the indignation with the Green Bay Packers when Aaron Rogers openly said he likes his game ball over-inflated? How about all the thrown penalty flags this season that were later said to not be a penalty? If you threw a flag you must have seen something. Does that mean the fix is in? I don't enjoy to watch football anymore ever since Vick and his dog fighting days, and the NFL took him back and the wife/girlfriend beaters and the child beaters. My opinion is that the deflategate crap is a ploy to just get inside the heads of the Patriots, and as you know, opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one, and they all stink.

I think this is a media created tempest in a teapot. Do y'all really believe everything you hear on TV? funny

A few facts...

1. Brady said that he likes the balls inflated to the minimum pressure, 12.5 PSI
2. In tests, balls that were inflated to 12.5 PSI initially, tested 11 PSI after exposure to cold weather. (underpressure)
3. There are reports that the Colts balls were also tested and found to be still within limits, but there have been no official statements by the League to that effect.
4. Despite what you have read and heard, D'Qwell Jackson DID NOT suspect that the ball he intercepted and kept was underpressure - In his own words:
   • "I wanted that ball as a souvenir!"
   • "I wouldn't know how that could even be an advantage or a disadvantage."
   • "I definitely wouldn't be able to tell if one ball had less pressure than another."
   • "It wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game. They outplayed us. We didn't match their intensity. I don't feel slighted at all personally. They created turnovers, they ran the ball on us. They won that game because of their intensity -- not the pressure of a football."
   • Jackson also said that late in the first half, he noticed that the Patriots were actually using the Colts' footballs because they couldn't find a "usable ball."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-less-pressure

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=888

Thanks DrHenley!

Ya, that's right, damn it's been so long. Did some investigative work in the area from time to time and a lot in New Bedford

Yes, typical New England answer. I maintain friendships in Boston and Billerica from when I lived there..."Patriot Nation" is no different that any other city with professional sports, except the football coach is known for his win at all costs way of play. And spying on other teams. And no team or person, in my world, is exempt from scrutiny for any sort of cheating, especially if it affects masses of people. People who know me personally know that I live and work to high standards. I attribute my lifestyle to living with dignity my whole life. If Belichick and Brady were able to give coherent press releases I might think this was a mistake, but they cannot and I will not. Depending on the poll, between 72% and 76% of Americans believe the Patriots cheated. Of course people from the northeast are the 24% to 28% who believe the Patriots didn't cheat. This leads me to believe many people in the northeast are either too stupid to differentiate between cheating or they have values so low they will stand by their team in spite of facts presented.

Jackson did turn the ball in, which was the headline for two days, and is why the balls were tested at halftime. Of course the stories have changed as the week progressed, this is about money, not moral standards. The NFL will in no way make any rulings before the Superbowl. Hell, from CNN to ESPN to FOX, they were all saying that Monday morning. The storyline has been manipulated multiple times since last Sunday, and will continue to change right up until gameday. On Monday the NFL stated that 11 or 24 footballs tested were under-inflated, and those footballs were used by the Patriots. Now you say the NFL has no testing on the footballs used by the Colts. If you let the changing storyline fool you I don't mind, I don't let it fool me. It was 11 of 12 footballs, they were Patriots game footballs, and the other twelve, utilized by the Colts, were inflated properly. That's what happened.

NO I DID NOT!

I said:

I was summarizing a few facts we know. Just facts. Avoiding conjecture, allegations, heresay, or downright fabrications.

And regarding Jackson:

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=888

I'll just say this...

I care not in the great scheme of things who wins the super bowl, or who cheats or doesn't in the NFL. I'd be willing to bet its much akin to NASCAR where every team takes it up to and sometimes beyond that fine line of bending the rules, and/or breaking them.

I'm quite sure no one is pure and innocent of any wrong doing when a championship is on the line. (It is after all known as the National Felon League with over 700 of their players serving current or past charges of illegal wrong doing)

I'll not get my underwear in a bunch either defending, nor castrating this issue with deflated balls, and I think it's quite humorous that some folks will.

For what it's worth though, I think Jim has had the best posts and insight on this thread thus far!

Hats off Jim!

Respect to all!