How does Made in the USA affect your firearms purchases?
 

Most members of these type of forums tend to want to promote American jobs and businesses. However when it comes to firearms I see Croatia, Austria, France, Spain, Germany, Communist Bloc, Brazil, South America and a whole host of other countries on our hips. Like all things made today sometimes there is a mix of countries making parts, assembly, and distribution so it really is not so clear cut. Then you also have brands located and manufacturing in the US but the parent company is foreign so US dollars are flowing overseas but jobs are here. I also know that at the end of the day, quality and reliability are a universal language and whatever we feel comfortable carrying is what you will carry no matter where it came from. So i am just curious how Made in the USA effect your firearms Most members of these type of forums tend to want to promote American jobs and businesses. However when it comes to firearms I see Croatia, Austria, France, Spain, Germany, Communist Bloc, Brazil, South America and a whole host of other countries on our hips. Like all things made today sometimes there is a mix of countries making parts, assembly, and distribution so it really is not so clear cut. Then you also have brands located and manufacturing in the US but the parent company is foreign so US dollars are flowing overseas but jobs are here. I also know that at the end of the day, quality and reliability are a universal language and whatever we feel comfortable carrying is what you will carry no matter where it came from. So i am just curious how Made in the USA effect your firearms purchases?

Dan Wesson is owned by a Czech company.

Just saying...


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No. The point of collecting guns is to get different types from different countries.

Yes. What I carry is made in the USA. Do I look down upon someone with a CZ? No.

I have a Smith J frame circa late 60's my dad left me. I have the Kimber, and the Wilson, which was born in Arkansas. I have my great uncles 1960 Model 94 in 32 Win Spl, a Remington 870, .22's made by Marlin and Winchester....

see a pattern? :D

The Winchester I have is Miroku made in Japan. I have often wondered why they don't make them in the US anymore.

Reliability and durability for ccw, that's my primary concern and decision making factor hence Austria on my hip. But I did own fully American made Keltec at one point, not anymore.

From a collector's point of view... diversity!

True! However, the 1911's and revolvers made by Dan Wesson in Norwich New York are all made 100% by Americans! American Made by a Company owned in Czech
Personally I like the idea, and definitely the guns they make so well! :D

I like all manufacturers of firearms one way or another so, no. For ccw I will go with what works, does not matter who makes it. Would I like to only support US companies? Absolutely! But, I just like too many different guns. Ruger used to be on my hip, today good old Texas iron resides there in form of a STI. nanner

I have black and white pics of the rifle, a station wagon, an elk and Uncle George, taken in Montana. He said the shot was around 400 yards, and he was never known to lie

I like Springfield Armory 1911's. However, many people don't know their frames come from Brazil. Springfield's are not Made in the USA. Some companies boast Made in the USA. However, what they should say is "assembled in the USA". One reason I like the PTR rifles now. The company is now making almost the whole rifle, in house, in South Carolina.

I don't hate non USA guns but try to US get them if I can. I have many countries in my safe, but I am a huge fan of STI guns all American made except the Spartan that comes from Armscor, same as RIA. Good guns as well. Springfield is a huge joke the way they portray themselves as an American company, not saying their products are not good just don't care for them.


I do think its kind of funny though that the gun loving American man who goes to rally's for America and preach kill all the illegals on the spot usually carry a glock.....

And that is where thing blurr for me. Some Glocks are made in Smyrna Georgia, so he jobs are here but do the end profits go over to Austria?

Springfield had me fooled for a while till I checked it out and found out the only thing American is the name Springfield Armory. Yes I know they still make some here but it is a fraction of the number of Croatian jobs we are supporting.

Don't get me wrong as I said I have more foreign arms in my safe than domestic. Also mixing of nations has been going on since before John Moses Browning went to France because of a money spat with Colt.

While there are some pistols I would not buy (Croatian ones come to mind) They are more about the pistol than where they are made.
I look at the reliability of the pistol and if it's going to serve my purpose.

For me...if I like it, I buy it! Doesn't matter where it came from. That's just me.

Yes, money leaves us. That is another issue I have with foreign cars but that is another fight for another day.


THANK YOU^ This is the bottom line here, most of I bet have different countries in our safe, I just prefer US. Most of us do but if its a gun we like we buy it that simple.

Something else to consider when thinking about "American made", is just where did the bar stock and other metals that are used in the frames, slides, barrels and all the small parts come from?

Pennsylvania steel mills? I think not, at least not all of it. Try China. Just sayin'....

We don't wan't the Chimp's cousins at RIA to go hungry do we? :D


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I don't have any relatives in Pahrump, NV. :p

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Made in Marikina, Philippines

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For now, they're ramping up the Nevada plants.

Never the less, back to my original point...where do all the American companies get their material from?

Cheapest Bidder? :eek:

Nothing wrong with that. ;)

Just to add salt to the wound.. how about the ammo? anybody buy S&B? PPU? what about military surplus? where do the components come from? the last lead smelter in the US has closed or is closing...

I've bought and still have a sh.tload of S&B in .45ACP. I've always liked it,just thought a was a little dirty,no big deal.I've had a bunch of their shotgun shells also,always liked them also.

Make my own. Lead obtained domestically (from tire shops and a roofer) :p

Powder is a different matter :rolleyes:

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Guys and gals, Armscor employees will not go hungry!!:D

With average sales in the $80,000,000.00 (yes that is 80 million dollars) range per year I am eating very well my friends!!!:D:)

All my Firearms are made by Springfield, Colt, Remington, and Smith & Wesson ( Made in USA BEFORE England got involved with the company. )

I always try to buy American made in anything I buy.

If I had my way, any company who moves its manufacturing overseas for cheap labor costs and imports their products back to the USA would pay one heck of a tariff.

You want to sell your product in the USA, you manufacture it in the USA, made by USA citizens.

With import materials....funny funny funny