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pony up 02-21-2015 12:32 PM

Dan Wesson Guardian 38 Super
 
Anyone here own or have experience with the DW Guardian? In 38 Super? Care to share? Thanks. Dennis

sdmc530 02-21-2015 01:53 PM

I can't help you but I do want a 38 super some day!

Tango3 02-22-2015 04:41 PM

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As a matter of fact, I have one. Here she is:

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Grrr....I'll post another right side up.


She was a great handgun right outta the box, both reliable and accurate. I like the Bobtail frame for EDC. She eats all the different ammo I've fed her no matter which company or bullet type. The fit and finish was spot on and I really like the Duty Treatment which holds up to use as advertised. She's a big hit at the range as most folks there have never shot .38 Super (or even a Wesson) before so she usually gets passed around. Have yet to have anyone unhappy with her performance. I purchase almost all my ammo online at GunBot....great selection at great prices, delivered right to my doorstep. Unlike what you often hear, ammo for it is neither hard to get or expensive (except, of course, for the typical match ammo brands).

Only made two mods. One was more grips but not because the factory grips were ugly or bad in the grip department but because I'm a grip guy who can't resist buying them. Bought a pair of VZs that were a little more grippy just in case I needed that and a pair of Esmeraldas cocobolo DDs because I love her cocobolos. Those are the grips that you see in the pict. The other is the replacement of the factory trigger. I have very short fingers so I replaced it with a Harrison Custom IonBond short trigger (also in the picture). It worked as advertised and I'm quite happy with it. As a matter of fact, I replaced all the factory triggers on all 12 1911s I own in my collection. 8 have the Harrison short triggers and 4 have the Dawson Custom short, flat trigger. These are on my competition guns so that finger placement on the face of the trigger is just one less thing to worry about. I do like the the short, curved triggers better, however, in terms of looks.

Rick

RKP 02-22-2015 04:45 PM

Hey Rick, thanks for the feedback. ;)

Tango3 02-22-2015 05:02 PM

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Sorry about upside down picture. Here's another.


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You're welcome, RKP

RICK

pony up 02-22-2015 05:46 PM

Rick, Thanks for the appraisal. This fall I traded a brand new unfired SS Wilson Combat Compact CQB in 9MM that just didn't fit my large hands for A full size SS Wilson Combat CQB fired but like new in 38 Super. The 38 Super was everything I had hoped and is a favorite cartridge. I have bumped into a couple of great deals on a new DW Guardian in .38 Super and I am on the fence torn between the above and a Les Baer Comanche in 38 Super. There is about a $600 difference in cost. I have owned Baers in the past and had no problem but Mr. Baer's attitude regarding his 100% satisfaction warrantee gives me pause. It is nice that he is proud of his product but telling customers to pound salt does not inspire confidence with me..Should I have a problem I want the person who made the gun to care that I am concerned.

Tango3 02-22-2015 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pony up (Post 102896)
Rick, Thanks for the appraisal. This fall I traded a brand new unfired SS Wilson Combat Compact CQB in 9MM that just didn't fit my large hands for A full size SS Wilson Combat CQB fired but like new in 38 Super. The 38 Super was everything I had hoped and is a favorite cartridge. I have bumped into a couple of great deals on a new DW Guardian in .38 Super and I am on the fence torn between the above and a Les Baer Comanche in 38 Super. There is about a $600 difference in cost. I have owned Baers in the past and had no problem but Mr. Baer's attitude regarding his 100% satisfaction warrantee gives me pause. It is nice that he is proud of his product but telling customers to pound salt does not inspire confidence with me..Should I have a problem I want the person who made the gun to care that I am concerned.

I totally relate, Dennis. I, too, own a Baer, a Commanche HW Monolith. And, yes, Les definitely has an attitude. I really like his guns but he gets stubborn about my Mono having a, GASP, reverse crown, I just don't get it. Oh well. By the way, I went and had that crown done anyway. Don't tell Les.

While I wouldn't be adverse to owning a Commanche HW Monolith in .38 Super the price difference between that and the Wesson IS significant. Add to that the Wesson is a top notch gun in its own right swayed me in that direction and I must say that I'm not sorry with my choice.

That's a tough choice you must make and I wish you the best in making that decision.
Rick

Caleb 02-23-2015 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sdmc530 (Post 102752)
I can't help you but I do want a 38 super some day!

Me too.... too many guns not enough cash. :mad:

RKP 02-23-2015 09:26 AM

I've never had to deal with him but I've noticed one thing about Less, for the most part the people who comment on him seem to of had a 'not so positive' experience with him, especially if they've experienced problems with one of his pistols.

Sheepdog 02-23-2015 02:19 PM

DENNIS! I was cruising along, content and happy, minding my own business and you had to bring up a 38 Super Guardian. My addiction is rearing it's ugly head. Thanks!:D

pony up 02-23-2015 06:28 PM

I am fighting with it. I need another 1911 like I need another hole in my head. The 38 Super is a fabulous cartridge and a joy to shoot through my full size WC. I think it would be even more fun in a carry size piece like the Guardian. It you are seriously looking right now sheepdog I have found 3, one used, like new; one new, blemished and one new all under $1300 Happy to share the info. dennis

USNMike 04-07-2015 11:12 PM

Guardian - best of both worlds
 
So I bought my first Dan Wesson (yes a Guardian) 3 years ago in 9mm - it is an amazing 1911 to shoot - everyone (including me) loves it. I began wanting one in 38 super, but could not find one anywhere in the midwest that they had priced reasonably.

Problem solved, called Dan Wesson and ordered a .38 super barrel and spring, four mags from Wilson Combat and wholah (sp), its now a 9mm by day and .38 super by night.

Neat solution!

Mike

pony up 04-08-2015 12:50 AM

Well. I did it. Traded my trusty Dan Wesson ECO with a dealer in Pa. for the Guardian. I have it and it is beautiful. No range time yet as I am out in Palm Springs desert outrunning Roadrunners (the birds) and trying not to step on a Rattlesnake. Got stranded on the Top of the Aerial Tram yesterday afternoon when the damn thing broke down. Not fun. My last tram ride. Ran ge report and pictures to follow. Oh, I couldn't swallow Baer even though I found a new 2015 model GT Monolith Stinger in 38 Super. I ain't looking back.

skosh69 04-08-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pony up (Post 106818)
Well. I did it. Traded my trusty Dan Wesson ECO with a dealer in Pa. for the Guardian. I have it and it is beautiful. No range time yet as I am out in Palm Springs desert outrunning Roadrunners (the birds) and trying not to step on a Rattlesnake. Got stranded on the Top of the Aerial Tram yesterday afternoon when the damn thing broke down. Not fun. My last tram ride. Ran ge report and pictures to follow. Oh, I couldn't swallow Baer even though I found a new 2015 model GT Monolith Stinger in 38 Super. I ain't looking back.

Congrats on the trade!!!

Getting stranded up on top of that mountain isn't that bad of thing....it's simple gorgeous up there.

In regards to the Baer's new GT Monolith Stinger, did you happen to see the price??? $3090 for the regular Mono and $3190 for the heavyweight in 38 Super, the 45's are $2915 and $3015. Unkle Les must be into smoking dope now. Not no, but hell no to those prices.

pony up 04-08-2015 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by skosh69 (Post 106847)
Congrats on the trade!!!

Getting stranded up on top of that mountain isn't that bad of thing....it's simple gorgeous up there.

In regards to the Baer's new GT Monolith Stinger, did you happen to see the price??? $3090 for the regular Mono and $3190 for the heavyweight in 38 Super, the 45's are $2915 and $3015. Unkle Les must be into smoking dope now. Not no, but hell no to those prices.

Ayah, right there, Ell. You are right It is gorgeous at the TOP. It wasn't awful but after 3 hours of standing in line for the next car down after having been promised 30 minutes to fix a problem I was getting a little antsy. You see I use 02 in a portable 02 generator that works well for me however my battery provides 7 hours of operation. A customer service guy finally brought me a chair and I was able to shut it down while I waited the last hour. They finally replaced the motor and I got down safely with 32 minutes left. I learned a lesson. Never, ever go anywhere without the charger no matter how long you think you will be gone. It was in the car at the bottom. Stupid. They were talking about bringing in Marine Corp helicopters from 29 stumps to evac us. Not very comforting to me as my last chopper trip with the USMC ended prematurely as our flight turned into a cruise. We got down, The tram ride is a do not miss. We stayed up top longer than we planned because although it was cold we had dressed for it and it was a beautiful day.

skosh69 04-08-2015 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pony up (Post 106894)
Ayah, right there, Ell. You are right It is gorgeous at the TOP. It wasn't awful but after 3 hours of standing in line for the next car down after having been promised 30 minutes to fix a problem I was getting a little antsy. You see I use 02 in a portable 02 generator that works well for me however my battery provides 7 hours of operation. A customer service guy finally brought me a chair and I was able to shut it down while I waited the last hour. They finally replaced the motor and I got down safely with 32 minutes left. I learned a lesson. Never, ever go anywhere without the charger no matter how long you think you will be gone. It was in the car at the bottom. Stupid. They were talking about bringing in Marine Corp helicopters from 29 stumps to evac us. Not very comforting to me as my last chopper trip with the USMC ended prematurely as our flight turned into a cruise. We got down, The tram ride is a do not miss. We stayed up top longer than we planned because although it was cold we had dressed for it and it was a beautiful day.

Dennis, I had no idea of your current medical condition. ya, the extra time spent without the proper clothing and more importantly, necessary medical equipment (charger) would definitely be a bummer! The fact the were willing to call in the cavalry was pretty cool. Glad everything worked out.

Caleb 04-08-2015 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by skosh69 (Post 106896)
Dennis, I had no idea of your current medical condition. ya, the extra time spent without the proper clothing and more importantly, necessary medical equipment (charger) would definitely be a bummer! The fact the were willing to call in the cavalry was pretty cool. Glad everything worked out.

This, glad you are ok brother. Congrats on your new pistol, cant wait for a range report and pics.


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