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Jdl2 04-14-2015 12:28 PM

1911 or Glock?
 
So, be honest. Who owns 1911s but uses a Glock for EDC?
Which model?
Am I bad?!
:banhim::banhim::banhim:

sdmc530 04-14-2015 12:29 PM

I own a glock, yes, carry NO! I have a 10mm G20 to hunt with....it ends there though.

skosh69 04-14-2015 12:31 PM

See my avatar......'nuff said!

RKP 04-14-2015 12:38 PM

Yes, own/carry a 1911 ... do not own a Glock.

GD2A 04-14-2015 12:57 PM

Of the two I carry the 1911 but having just bought a new G19, once I take it to the range a few times, it will be carried as well. I mean, it's a Glock for crying out loud - simple and reliable. Sure, I love the 1911 but a Glock is a damn fine gun. Haters are going to hate :rolleyes:

BlackKnight 04-14-2015 01:17 PM

Glock is my department issued weapon. I carry that everywhere off duty unless it's out of state. Then I carry my personal Glock which is the same model as my issued one. Occasionally I wear sweats when I go work out. In those instances I'll put my .38 in a pocket holster.
When I retire I'll re-think my carry options.

Snipersnest 04-14-2015 01:18 PM

We had Glocks as issue weapons. There were instances when slides flew off during training, coatings peeling off due to certain solvents being used which caused malfunctions. Glock came down and replaced the pistols immediately (great customer service) and in so many words asked that we refrain from "getting the word out" about the issues. I'm glad that the flying slides etc., happened during training and not in an actual situation. I've never had an issue with the 1911 platform, or even the Ruger P90 which is ugly, but works reliably. I personally am not a fan of the (plastic piece of sh!t) Glock:p. I know the majority of police departments are equipped with Glocks, but that's because Glock made a deal swapping out the old department weapons one for one, basically for free. With the budget constraints the police departments had, they jumped on the deal, not because they were the better gun, but because they were free.

milkmanjoe 04-14-2015 01:25 PM

I carry a G17 daily. Two spare mags. Gives me, with one extended mag, fifty four rounds on board. My rounds are either Winchester Ranger T's or Federal HST, both in 147 grain. I have ran this G17 over 100K rounds, never replaced even one spring, and the barrel is not shot out. The G17 is rarely cleaned. Much as I love 1911's, they just cannot do what a G17 can.

GD2A 04-14-2015 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkmanjoe (Post 107444)
I carry a G17 daily. Two spare mags. Gives me, with one extended mag, fifty four rounds on board. My rounds are either Winchester Ranger T's or Federal HST, both in 147 grain. I have ran this G17 over 100K rounds, never replaced even one spring, and the barrel is not shot out. The G17 is rarely cleaned. Much as I love 1911's, they just cannot do what a G17 can.


Uh oh, Joe ... you better enter some sort of witness protection for saying that! funny

Riverpigusmc 04-14-2015 02:30 PM

Glock...the Bic lighters of the pistol world

milkmanjoe 04-14-2015 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GD2A (Post 107445)
Uh oh, Joe ... you better enter some sort of witness protection for saying that! funny


Sometimes the truth hurts.....funny

Jdl2 04-14-2015 03:03 PM

I love you guys😋😋😋

flphotog 04-14-2015 03:08 PM

I bought a Block once, it lasted about 6 months only because I really tried to like it, before I dumped it.

Caleb 04-14-2015 03:08 PM

I own both, 1911s and G17. I carry the 1911, better ergos for my roach hands. But, when the G43 comes out, I "might" rethink my options.

Xbonz 04-14-2015 03:23 PM

I do not own a Glock said Sam. I do not own one Sam I am.

I own a number of 1911's but my carry varies from a 1911 to normal EDC of P239 40 cal to Ruger 357 mag snubbie

Jdl2 04-14-2015 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamCaleb (Post 107451)
I own both, 1911s and G17. I carry the 1911, better ergos for my roach hands. But, when the G43 comes out, I "might" rethink my options.

I made a big mistake selling my two P239 40s.

AutoMag 04-14-2015 04:39 PM

Never carried a Glock but a Sig has made the rounds with me!!!:)

skosh69 04-14-2015 05:05 PM

Your thread on the big forum got closed.....funny funny funny



http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=487994

sdmc530 04-14-2015 05:51 PM

What is this "big forum" you speak of??

TLE2 04-14-2015 05:58 PM

I think you need to include all plastic pistols, not just Glocks. From what I've seen M&P's and others are Glock clones.

I own (was my daughter's, rest in peace) but do not carry a Glock.

Lonestar grips. 04-14-2015 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skosh69 (Post 107473)
Your thread on the big forum got closed.....funny funny funny



http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=487994



post number 3, Bob's (Arkie) answer says it all.

pony up 04-14-2015 06:38 PM

I have never learned to appreciate striker or double action fired handguns. I am spoiled and have enough problems with old eyes and progressive lenses without making it any more complicated. I have nothing against light weight 1911 frames nor 1911 style plastic frames, in fact falling in love with my Wilson Combat Spec-Ops 9. Never owned or fired a Glock but respect their reputation for being work horse weapons.

pitor 04-14-2015 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkmanjoe (Post 107444)
I carry a G17 daily. Two spare mags. Gives me, with one extended mag, fifty four rounds on board. My rounds are either Winchester Ranger T's or Federal HST, both in 147 grain. I have ran this G17 over 100K rounds, never replaced even one spring, and the barrel is not shot out. The G17 is rarely cleaned. Much as I love 1911's, they just cannot do what a G17 can.

+1000. All i carry is my Glock 19. It has been utterly reliable. I've never seen a slide flying forward, or any kind of malfunction of what's being described here. Maybe police departments need to train their people how to properly maintain them? I compete regularly in both IDPA and USPSA and I've never seen any of the failures mentioned.

brownie 04-14-2015 08:04 PM

Carried one, and many times two 1911's professionally for 28 years. A 1911 is still in rotation [ Ed Brown lw commander ] but not the primary carry today. That goes to the snub 357/38 [ two of them ] or the g17/26.

I trust all of them, some more than others. Based on over 250K through several 1911's and 120K in one of the g17's, also based on what I see students bring and have more issues with, the G17 is far and away more reliable overall.

Killed two sigs, a 226 in 75K and a 228 in 35K+. Only took a few years to do it for both. I like em though and I'd own another P series in a heartbeat.

DaFadda 04-14-2015 10:11 PM

G19, G21SF and a G30. Compare that to my Dan Wesson CCO and my Dan Wesson Patriot? Hmmmm.... which to carry.. .which to carry... Dan Wesson wins ... again. All this said, IF IF IF... I had to bug out fast and furious.... the G19 and 21 would be in the bug out bag. Why? simply this. They are reliable. Yes my Dan Wessons are reliable also. But the Glocks would come too. Just sayin'

OH... what do I carry? Dan Wesson CCO

sdmc530 04-14-2015 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonestar grips. (Post 107500)
post number 3, Bob's (Arkie) answer says it all.

Yep funny

douglas_knott 04-15-2015 02:28 AM

I am down to one glock and it is my g20. I carry it sometimes in the winter if I get bored. It's my hunting pistol mainly though. I edc my XDs .45 currently and a shield 9mm on ocassion.

girphoto 04-15-2015 01:59 PM

Howdy Pard's

Lets all talk what is real in the world.. That's right we might love 1911's, we might love wheel guns, we might love Glock's or M&P's but we are not being real.
We carry a gun or at least I do for protection. Not because I want to carry an extra 1.5-X Lbs on my side. I carry because I sometimes work in very bad areas and carry a lot of very expensive equipment I carry because I will defend my family to the end (day or night).
So some one asked me yesterday, why I carry in the day time and just today in a very good are of Palm Beach there was an armed robbery attempt at a shopping center and I rest my case (day or night, good area or bad) things happen to good people.
Yep, I build Custom Glock's for competition and carry. Yep, I shoot 1911's and 2011's all the time...But if I am not with a wheel gun (now the new Ruger LCR9mm) I am carrying a Glock,
We must Remember, that if you have to use it, and some day you might, you want in my mind two things, a gun that will go BANG every time and a gun that you can GIVE UP to the Authorities for at lest 6 months and not worry that you will get it back some day in the same condition that you gave it up.
Yep, we all say 1911 only thing to carry until you have to give up your $1K + prized 1911 and not know if or when it will be returned.
Giving up a $500+ or - gun as we might not like it is a lot easier to do.

So if it is not Sunday and you are out back making Lunch or Dinner and what to show off your BEAUTIFUL 1911 and Rig or you are not in a competition I would opt for the Plastic gun that goes Bang!

Well that is my $0.02 and my story and I am sticking to it

GaryR

sdmc530 04-15-2015 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by girphoto (Post 107589)
Howdy Pard's

Lets all talk what is real in the world.. That's right we might love 1911's, we might love wheel guns, we might love Glock's or M&P's but we are not being real.
We carry a gun or at least I do for protection. Not because I want to carry an extra 1.5-X Lbs on my side. I carry because I sometimes work in very bad areas and carry a lot of very expensive equipment I carry because I will defend my family to the end (day or night).
So some one asked me yesterday, why I carry in the day time and just today in a very good are of Palm Beach there was an armed robbery attempt at a shopping center and I rest my case (day or night, good area or bad) things happen to good people.
Yep, I build Custom Glock's for competition and carry. Yep, I shoot 1911's and 2011's all the time...But if I am not with a wheel gun (now the new Ruger LCR9mm) I am carrying a Glock,
We must Remember, that if you have to use it, and some day you might, you want in my mind two things, a gun that will go BANG every time and a gun that you can GIVE UP to the Authorities for at lest 6 months and not worry that you will get it back some day in the same condition that you gave it up.
Yep, we all say 1911 only thing to carry until you have to give up your $1K + prized 1911 and not know if or when it will be returned.
Giving up a $500+ or - gun as we might not like it is a lot easier to do.

So if it is not Sunday and you are out back making Lunch or Dinner and what to show off your BEAUTIFUL 1911 and Rig or you are not in a competition I would opt for the Plastic gun that goes Bang!

Well that is my $0.02 and my story and I am sticking to it

GaryR



Your are right, I mean you no disrespect but if I have to use a gun to protect myself or my family I don't give a damn about giving up a gun while the investigation goes on. Sucks yes, but its a gun, money, monetary item can be replaced. Lives can not so I am not liking that logic. The last thing I would worry about is my gun. But I don't always carry a 1911 either I carry a plastic gun depending on situation.

I get what you are saying, not knocking it but just have to agree to disagree. I think its more important to have a gun you know, trust and can rely on %100 percent all the time...that is the main point.

;)

girphoto 04-15-2015 02:45 PM

And don't get the wrong Idea, I do not carry a Glock all of the time, as a matter of fact, I usually carry a wheel gun or a XDs most of the time...I also depending on where I am going carry a Glock, I would carry an M&P but I do not have one:D
But when you look and listen to everyone and their over $1K-5K 1911's, I think that not everyone takes into account, that if they had to use it that they would have to give it up.
Yes, I am with you, it makes no difference what you have or what it costs, you GO AND USE IT..
But I wonder how many CCW's actually think that if they had to use it they would have to give it up. The other thought is how many CCW's could actually draw down and use a weapon if they had to.
Would I, well yes but I watch folks at various ranges and in shoot house exercise and the world is different when some one is coming at you with a weapon or just trying to hit a piece of paper.

Any way, 1811, Glock, M&P, Wheel Gun as long as it goes Bang, I am there.

GaryR

sdmc530 04-15-2015 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by girphoto (Post 107605)
And don't get the wrong Idea, I do not carry a Glock all of the time, as a matter of fact, I usually carry a wheel gun or a XDs most of the time...I also depending on where I am going carry a Glock, I would carry an M&P but I do not have one:D
But when you look and listen to everyone and their over $1K-5K 1911's, I think that not everyone takes into account, that if they had to use it that they would have to give it up.
Yes, I am with you, it makes no difference what you have or what it costs, you GO AND USE IT..
But I wonder how many CCW's actually think that if they had to use it they would have to give it up. The other thought is how many CCW's could actually draw down and use a weapon if they had to.
Would I, well yes but I watch folks at various ranges and in shoot house exercise and the world is different when some one is coming at you with a weapon or just trying to hit a piece of paper.

Any way, 1811, Glock, M&P, Wheel Gun as long as it goes Bang, I am there.

GaryR

Yep, I get you...just make sure it goes bang every time when you need it too.

milkmanjoe 04-15-2015 06:16 PM

Gary....how does the Ruger LCR 9mm recoil? Its my next purchase, waiting for the price to drop a little.

ColMike 04-15-2015 06:30 PM

mounted on the column of my truck is a 1911 Colt CCO. Easier than fighting the seatbelt or tight jeans in a crisis situation

80% of the time, I carry a Kahr PM9

The other 20% is : 1911, G19, P238

girphoto 04-15-2015 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkmanjoe (Post 107637)
Gary....how does the Ruger LCR 9mm recoil? Its my next purchase, waiting for the price to drop a little.

It has very little recoil and at last Sunday's Gun Show in West Palm Beach it was $475 at one dealer and the rest were at $569

If you want to shoot it tell me when you are in my area and I will set up a time to go to the rage with you

GaryR

girphoto 04-15-2015 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColMike (Post 107638)
mounted on the column of my truck is a 1911 Colt CCO. Easier than fighting the seatbelt or tight jeans in a crisis situation

80% of the time, I carry a Kahr PM9

The other 20% is : 1911, G19, P238


I like your selection and idea in the truck

GaryR

DaFadda 04-16-2015 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColMike (Post 107638)
mounted on the column of my truck is a 1911 Colt CCO. Easier than fighting the seatbelt or tight jeans in a crisis situation

80% of the time, I carry a Kahr PM9

The other 20% is : 1911, G19, P238

Mike, I like the idea too. Do you have a picture of how you mounted on the column? (Steering Column? or Door Column?) Not being stupid here, but.... yup!

Michael

ColMike 04-16-2015 08:36 AM

It's a system from gum creek. http://

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/t...psl03ttpuk.jpg

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/t...psiwhz9kiq.jpg

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RKP 04-16-2015 08:39 AM

http://www.gumcreekcustoms.com/

DrHenley 04-16-2015 09:29 AM

Everyone should carry what they are comfortable with. I'm not going to say what is right for someone else.

I carry a Sig Ultra 1911 http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=888 because besides being small and light enough to carry in a pocket holster (cargo pocket) it is the most reliable pistol I've ever owned. It is bone stock because there is nothing I would want to change about it. I have run an IDPA match with it and I did not feel like it was a handicap.

I *have* shot a G***k. Did not like anything about it. There is only one tupperware gun I have enjoyed shooting, a CZ P07. Great trigger, great ergonomics, and accurate.

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=888

BlackKnight 04-16-2015 09:44 AM

What's interesting to note is that while we may agree or disagree we're civil about it. While in another forum they had to close the thread because they were afraid for where it was going.
You guys are all right in my book.


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