Is a rifle the "right choice" for HD?
 

Komo News - Homowner shoots/kills intruder near Brown's Point (Washington St.)...

This would seem like a normal HD/SD scenario, save for the article mentioning that the homeowner used a "high powered rifle" and killed the intruder with only one shot... and, the bullet ended up in an SUV "across the street." Thankfully, no one else injured other than the intruder.

I'm gathering the message the MSM wants to send is that a "high powered rifle" is excessive for HD.

Discuss....

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If it's your only option then, no. But, I prefer a good old 12g or a handgun. Then again, I live in a condo with neighbors all around. I would hate a rifle round penetrating thier home and possibly injuring an innocent bystander .

Meh. Neighbors are overrated. Thin 'em out

funny True but, I like one of the neighbors

You are responsible for collateral damage.

I think a MOAB would be appropriate self defense to Pig. I could be wrong. :D

Rifle if all you have its all you have but no I don't believe its the best option. First up is probably a 12g.....but I use a pistol. A rifle round will go long ways through walls....that is bad.

Consider frangible ammo. It was mandated at the indoor range I was a member of in Connecticut for rifle rounds. Going into the human body, it imparts all its energy at the same time. AKA... "makes a mess inside". But if it hits a wall, it might get through one sheet of sheet rock before it breaks up. Much better round for apartment/condo dweller IMHO.

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Pistol for me as well, I'm well trained and can maneuver much easily with pistol in hand. I don't own a shotty or a black rifle.

Basic rule, know your target and what's behind it.

this^^^ is so simple but brilliant. But in the heat of the moment if a break in is happening most people I would bet don't think of this.

Correct, in fight or flight mode with adrenalin rushing through the veins, tunnel vision, and auditory exclusion, the last thing most non trained individuals are going to think about is background stop.

Remember also that if you are using a scatter gun, to use the proper load for your dwelling. Most, if not all, buckshot WILL penetrate through two drywall covered walls. Insulation will help slow it down but, it won't fully stop it. It has been said that birdshot is the load to use indoors for SD. The way that I have my shotgun staged, myself and my lady will be behind the gun. With that said, I'm running two shots of bird followed by six shots of #4 buck.

55 grain soft point prairie dog bullets. The original "frangibles."

However, I prefer a pistol caliber carbine loaded with hollow points because it's not as loud. I've lost enough hearing already.

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Something people don't think of. now I know there may be no time for such things but I have hearing protection in my gun spot so if there is a break in I can grab gun, light, and the hearing protection for Kaden. I don't want Lisa to have her ears covered because if I have to yell something I need her to hear me. But we have our drill down and know what to if need be.

Planning people, plan and practice its critical.

My closest neighbor is 650 feet away. To get to the house you 're going to have to go through 2 electric fences or pry open the closed automatic gate. If you show up at the house uninvited with ill intent, you will get to meet my Mossberg 500 with a surefire X300 on it. Once good and blind I will load you up with some 00, 8 of'em if necessary. There's a 16 gallon shopvac and 2 gallons of bleach in the garage. I have done dry wall, and I'm sure I'll do it again sometime.

That's why suppressors should be easier to attain without jumping through hoops.

agree with you 1000%

I would have one on my house gun no doubt.

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These look rather interesting... but, because they're a little short on "length," means they're also a little short on "capacity" as well. My Mossberg 930 "JM Pro" (24" overall length) has a 9+1 capacity and is a "semi-auto." I think this is only a 4+1, right (same as the 930 "home security" model).

what is the cost???

In the $400-600 range per Gunwatcher.com

Hey a KelTec KSG is 14+1 and a bullpup to boot. That good be my shotty choice

5+1 I would think 6 shots of either buck or bird would be enough.

$399 at my LGS.

This would be a good choice but, you have to be competent with how it operates (especially change tubes) and even tho it's a bullpup..... it's kinda bulky.

Not with a "home invasion" of 3 or more (which is how they usually come)..... I'd want a little more capacity.

Becoming competent with it is a breeze, changing tubes is nothing but a flick of the wrist. I shot one for 15 min and became very competent with it. And it's super reliable.

True. It also depends on several factors too. House size, "staged" weapons, plan of defense that you have in place, etc... I'm in a small condo type place now and I have firearms in specific places not visible but, easily accessible. Granted, I don't have kids in the house so no worries about locking them up. So, the plan is if there is time....make it into the "safe room" and defend it with a pump and a couple of pistols (15+ capacity each plus extra mags). We only have to worry about one entrance, the safe room door. Popping intruders as they try to enter into said room with buckshot and pistol ammo headed in thier direction. Side saddle on the shotty if a reload is necessary. If they decide not to enter the room then, we wait till the cops show up. Items are replaceable, lives are not.

No real experience with it so, I was just giving an uninformed personal opinion. As with every weapon, training is key. I have heard good things about it but, keltec is draw of the luck sometimes on thier stuff. Hopefully, thier products are much better now than a few years ago.

Yup. I'm generally in one of two places (more so than others) in my house where I can close & lock a door for a little extra (but not much) security. Hopefully, it's enough for me to retrieve my weapons and be ready if/when they breach that door. It also helps that I have a monitor with my security camera display in both of those two places. So, if I hear something on the outside, I can flip on the monitor immediately and see what might be coming while I'm getting my EDC ready.

I'm also thinking about some of those Ring Floodlight Cam Units. I already have one motion sensitive flood light in the back, but I see that it goes off a lot when there are stray animals that pass by it (feral cats, etc.). We'll have to see how that goes.