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Caleb 12-04-2018 08:52 AM

1000 or BUST!
 
Making this thread to keep a tally, record, and share my journey to 1000yds. My goal is to be able to hit a gong at 1000yds within the first five rounds shot at that distance. If you know a little about long range shooting, you realize it’s not as easy as just aiming and pulling the trigger. There are a lot of variables and math involved. So, to start off I will be purchasing a new rifle with a caliber that can get the job done ( I’ll have to do my part tho). I will update this thread with my journey, experiences, mistakes, positives, negatives, ect. Hope y’all will follow along on my road to 1K!

PS: a little disclaimer is that I HAVE shot and hit a target at 1K but, with someone else’s kit. I want to accomplish this with MY setup.


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Riverpigusmc 12-04-2018 09:53 AM

Good deal. I know one thing that won't be busted...
Btw..Colioris effect comes into play in that neighborhood

RKP 12-04-2018 10:05 AM

VERY interesting, I'll be checking in here quite often bud. http://www.cotep.org/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

sdmc530 12-04-2018 10:22 AM

I like this thread. Can not wait to see how this plays out for you

Caleb 12-04-2018 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Riverpigusmc (Post 164465)
Good deal. I know one thing that won't be busted...
Btw..Colioris effect comes into play in that neighborhood



I was going to bring that up. Around what range it needed to be considered? Does it depend on the cartridge and velocity at range? Ect......


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Riverpigusmc 12-04-2018 10:57 AM

For 7.62 it was in the area of a geand

Caleb 12-04-2018 11:00 AM

10-4 I’ll have to read up and see if it’ll affect the 6.5 Creedmoor ( hint hint).


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Caleb 12-04-2018 09:08 PM

So, researching as I usually do before a big purchase. I have purchased the one that’ll get me out to 1K. I had a budget of $1000 to spend on the rifle itself plus optics . So, some of the runner ups were .....

Remington 700 5R in 6.5 Creedmoor
Ruger Precision In 6.5 Creedmoor
Howa 1500. In 6.5 Creedmoor

As you can see, I chose the 6.5mm Creedmoor cartridge to get me out there. Other contenders were 260 Rem, 6mm Creedmoor, and 300 Win Mag. I chose the 6.5 because of lighter recoil and better ballistics with good aftermarket support.

So, for the rifle I chose...... I went with something different than what you normally see out on the line. I like to be different but, I need to be in this fight. This rifle has good reviews and the features it comes with for the price..... it’s untouchable (imho).

I went with the Bergara B14 HMR In 6.5 Crd

Here is a snippet from the manufacturer’s website....

“Although there are many rifles on the market today, we wanted to focus on one thing: quality. Our B-14 rifles were inspired by the desire to bring the quality that Bergara was known for in the custom rifle world to production rifles made for all hunters. In the B-14 rifle, you will find a level of craftsmanship that surpasses all of the other production hunting rifles on the market.
The B-14 HMR rifle features our integrated mini-chassis molded into the stock to give the rifle repeatable bedding and accuracy. It also supports a fully free-floated BERGARA barrel to achieve optimal precision. The Bergara Hunting and Match rifles are built to offer a rifle for both hunters and competition shooters that can perform incredibly in either situation. The stock features an adjustable cheekpiece and length of pull spacers. Built in Spain at our highly automated and efficient barrel factory, this rifle delivers a level of quality and performance that is unmatched in its price range.

The world-renowned Bergara barrel on this long range precision rifle is complemented by our own super-smooth B-14 Action, which is a two-lug system with a Sako-style extractor and a coned bolt nose and breech to ensure a smooth feeding and extraction of the cartridge. It’s also outfitted with a Bergara curved trigger we designed to guarantee a crisp, clean pull every time you fire the rifle. The trigger comes set at about three pounds. It has been factory drilled and tapped to fit Remington 700 style rings and bases.

A 5-round AICS compatible detachable magazine is standard with our HMR rifle. QD flush cups are included in the stock to allow for easy attachment and detachment of slings.”

CALIBER: 6,5 Creedmoor
BARREL LENGTH: 22”
TWIST: 1:8”

All I need to do is add a Scope package and bipod and I’m ready to rock!

Pics on the next page......





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Caleb 12-04-2018 09:09 PM

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Caleb 12-04-2018 09:11 PM

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Caleb 12-04-2018 09:12 PM

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AFJuvat 12-04-2018 09:24 PM

Nice score!

Caleb 12-04-2018 09:25 PM

I went with the HMR because I didn’t want a Chassis rifle. Not that there is anything wrong with them (in fact they are usually more accurate) but, I like the looks of this one better (personal choice). The stock is adjustable for LOP and cheek hight. It is also free full floated (barrel) and has an aluminum piece embedded in the stock to add rigidity. The barrel is only 22”s but according to some research , you only lose around 60-70 FPS compared to a 26” barrel. But, you gain less weight and shorter profile. Guess that’s not a big deal on a “target” rifle but, whatever. Enlarged bolt knob helps throw the 90 degree action to cycle in a new round with ease. This bolt is smooth as butta! The factory trigger is amazing for a factory trigger. They say it’s adjusted to 3 lbs from the factory but, mine feels lighter. The break is clean and brisk with no take up or creep at all. Also, very little movement rearward of the trigger after it breaks. It’s nice , really nice. I can drop a Timney in there but, why? This one will do the job. Maybe time will tell me differently. Forgot to mention the barrel is threaded for a brake or suppressor. I’ll throw a brake on there to help stay on target with follow up shots.


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Caleb 12-04-2018 09:29 PM

Here is the rifle in the box...

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Caleb 12-04-2018 09:30 PM

We will talk Scope package when it comes in, hopefully this week.


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RKP 12-04-2018 09:56 PM

:cool: ... You're not playing around are ya bud ... very nice !!

Caleb 12-04-2018 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKP (Post 164481)
:cool: ... You're not playing around are ya bud ... very nice !!



No Sir!


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sdmc530 12-05-2018 01:52 PM

This is super cool. What optics are you getting?

Caleb 12-05-2018 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdmc530 (Post 164484)
This is super cool. What optics are you getting?



Patience grasshopper. Scope should arrive tomorrow or Friday


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RKP 12-05-2018 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Caleb (Post 164485)
Patience grasshopper. Scope should arrive tomorrow or Friday

funny

sdmc530 12-05-2018 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caleb (Post 164485)
Patience grasshopper. Scope should arrive tomorrow or Friday


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“Feels rejected” as I walk away







:rolleyes:

Caleb 12-05-2018 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sdmc530 (Post 164490)
“Feels rejected” as I walk away















:rolleyes:



Don’t worry, you are still my favorite donut boy.


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sdmc530 12-06-2018 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Caleb (Post 164491)
Don’t worry, you are still my favorite donut boy.


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redeemed!

Caleb 12-06-2018 06:53 PM

Today I received my scope. I want to see what the hype is all about with these Athlon scopes so, that’s what I purchased. More specifically, the Argos BTR-APMR FFP 8-34x56 , illuminated. The description below is from the manufacturer’s webpage and lists all the specs for it.

DESCRIPTION:

For those of you that are just getting started in the PRS or are looking to start, take a close look at the Argos BTR family of scopes. These scopes have features normally only found on high-end scopes. It has a 4x magnification that makes it versatile in multiple shooting disciplines. It has our Advanced Fully-Multi Coated Optics that delivers a crystal clear bright image in in dark environments. The Argos BTR also has our exclusive XPL coating that protects your lenses from dirt, grease and harsh weather conditions. The 6061T6 aircraft grade aluminum tube will protect these world class optics no matter what punishment you throw at it. WE just didn’t build the Argos BTR to just perform well optically we also built in features that make easy to adjust for any shot you have to take. These scopes have Side Parallax Adjustment to give you the ability to adjust to any ranged right at your fingertips. This along with the variety of first focal plane reticles give you easy elevation and windage adjustments.

This Argos BTR 8-34×56 Model has APMR first focal plane illuminated MIL reticle in it. Please click the link for download the reticle instruction manual in Specification for more details…

SKU#:214066

FEATURES:

First Focal Plane Reticle:
First focal plane design allows you to fully utilize specially designed reticles that shrink or grow along with your target as you zoom in or out. These reticles offer quick target engagement at low power while offering precise holdover positions with finer details.

Illuminated Reticle:
The illuminated reticle provides greater visibility during dusk and dawn and other low ambient light environment.

Etched Glass Reticle:
Reticle etched on the glass that provides excellent backing support for complex reticle design and offers great durability and much higher shock resistance to recoil

Fully Multicoated:
Fully Multicoated optics effectively reduces reflected light and increases the transmission of light giving you a brighter image than normal single coated lenses

6061 T6 Aluminum:
The 6061T6 aircraft grade aluminum tube that has exceptional strength and superior mechanical integrity will protect these world class optics no matter what punishment you throw at it.

Heat Treated One Piece Tube Construction:
Heat treated one piece tube gives the scope extra strength over multi-piece tubes. A one piece tube also is better at keeping moisture out thus keeping your scope fog proof for the life of the product

Waterproof:
Waterproof to protect the scope in the harshest weather conditions or if accidentally submerged underwater

Fog proof:
Fog proof to allow you to immediately engage your target when you take your rifle to cold ambient temperature from warm inside

Shockproof:
Robust mechanical system with special designs on both control and erector system that give you the ultimate recoil resistance to withstand 1000G recoil for 1000 times.

Argon Purged:
Argon Purging uses the inertia gas with bigger size molecules to purge any moisture out of the tube giving you better waterproofing and thermal stability .

SPECIFICATION:

Magnification:8-34
Objective Lens Diameter:56 mm
Reticle: APMR FFP IR MIL, Glass Etched
Surface Finish:Matte
Lens Coating:Wide Band Fully Multicoated
Extra Coating:Xtra Protective Coating
Tube Material:6061 Aluminium
Tube Diameter:30 mm
Exit Pupil: 7-1.7 mm
Eye Relief:3.3 inches
Field of View @100 yards:12.5-3 feet
Click Value:0.1MIL
Adjustment range per rotation:5MIL
Total Elevation Adjustment:13 MIL
Total Windage Adjustment:13 MIL
Turret Style:Exposed
Parallax Adjustment:Side Focus – 15 yards to infinity
Purging Material:Argon
Length:15.5 inches
Weight:32.2 ounces







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Caleb 12-06-2018 06:54 PM

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Caleb 12-06-2018 06:56 PM

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Caleb 12-06-2018 07:03 PM

The scope came with lens flip caps that are good quality. Also in the box was a baggie with 6-8 plastic washers. These washers are for when you dial your zero in, you can set a “zero stop”. In other words ....once you have your zero at your preferred zero distance, these washers are inserted under the turret caps to “stop” the turret from being adjusted below your zero. Example: Let’s say you set your scope zero to 100yds. You are out shooting targets from 100-500yds. You adjust your elevation to the 500yd setting (whatever that may be for your setup) and now want to shoot at 100yds again. Instead of counting how many turnsof the turret you made to get your 500yd adjustments, all you have to do is turn the turret back till you hit your “zero stop” and just set the turret to the “0” mark and you are back to a 100yd zero. Hope that makes sense. Lol

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Caleb 12-06-2018 07:07 PM

1000 or BUST!
 
I also purchased an EGW 20moa scope rail. Since the Bergara action is essentially a Rem 700 action on steroids, scope rails were super easy to find. I purchased the 20moa rail since I’ll be shooting out to 1000yds. This will help with vertical adjustment ranges. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...098340d52c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9c161dacb1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9fdae547d6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f9f5a2a1b2.jpg


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Caleb 12-06-2018 07:09 PM

Oh yeah, almost forgot. I got a bubble level as well. This is pretty explanatory I think. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...38c99734bb.jpg


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Caleb 12-06-2018 07:09 PM

Waiting on the rings now.... tracking says Saturday delivery. Blah.


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DrHenley 12-06-2018 07:12 PM

Like a kid waiting for Santa funny

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Lonestar grips. 12-06-2018 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverpigusmc (Post 164465)
Btw..Colioris effect comes into play in that neighborhood

What does a women's fun button have to do with long range shooting????

sdmc530 12-06-2018 09:12 PM

Oh mongo that is funny



Nice optics bud. So rings and then range day?

Caleb 12-06-2018 09:35 PM

1000 or BUST!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sdmc530 (Post 164511)
Oh mongo that is funny



Nice optics bud. So rings and then range day?



Rings, bipod, and ammo. Then wait till next Range day. Probably won’t be till January.


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RKP 12-06-2018 10:44 PM

I've read/heard good things about those Athlon scopes.
How ya sleeping at night bud? :D

Caleb 12-07-2018 10:31 AM

I’m sleeping well, it’s finally home. Lol..... I Hate waiting for online orders but, it was well worth the wait.


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Horse'nround 12-07-2018 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverpigusmc (Post 164465)
Good deal. I know one thing that won't be busted...
Btw..Colioris effect comes into play in that neighborhood

Go for it Caleb, it will be fun to make the journey with you.

pig I think the one you want is Coriolis effect... or were going for something like the clitoris effect ??:eek:

Different ball game bud. But from what we here you are intimately familiar with...:D

Horse'nround 12-07-2018 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonestar grips. (Post 164507)
What does a women's fun button have to do with long range shooting????

Come on Zane you know the pig comes from the land of this is my piece, this gun...


This ones for shootin, this ones for fun!:D

RKP 12-08-2018 08:07 AM

Just checked in here and there's no pics of the scope mounted yet. :facepalm:

:D

Caleb 12-08-2018 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKP (Post 164537)
Just checked in here and there's no pics of the scope mounted yet. :facepalm:

:D



Today is the day (12-8-18) of said scope mounting. I have received the rings yesterday. Woohoo!


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