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Caleb 01-31-2014 02:01 PM

Honest Opinions Request
 
Ok, I do not know much about the Sig line of 1911s. Looking for honest opinions/explination of this platform. I have read all kinds of things on the interweb (everything is true, right?) about Sig's 1911s are not really 1911s and so on. Are they worth a look for a future purchase? Is it a waste of money that can be spent on a Kim.......uhm, I mean DW, STI, EB, WC, LB, ect...?

I like the look of their "Compact" model, therefor I ask the knowledgeable Cotepeans here.

sdmc530 01-31-2014 02:32 PM

I don't know much about the 1911's but out agency gun is the is the 226 solid gun, terrible looking but built like a tank. I think they are overpriced for what they ar...I would pass...but that is me.

Riverpigusmc 01-31-2014 02:44 PM

Talk to Aaron (Grouse) I think he knows something about SIG's

milkmanjoe 01-31-2014 02:49 PM

I looked at SIG's for a while. Read alot about extractor troubles. Then read about the brand moving to the NE USA and losing quality control. I bailed, just stayed with 1911's.
But what the hey......if ya like a gun, try it, learn it, make it work.

BlackKnight 01-31-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by milkmanjoe (Post 68135)
I looked at SIG's for a while. Read alot about extractor troubles. Then read about the brand moving to the NE USA and losing quality control. I bailed, just stayed with 1911's.
But what the hey......if ya like a gun, try it, learn it, make it work.

I've heard and read the same thing.
Unfortunately, I do not have any first hand knowledge of their 1911's. I had and still see a lot of their regular stuff (P series) and I have not seen the decline in quality and reliability people have talked about.

Xbonz 01-31-2014 03:06 PM

I am by no means an expert but I own 2 Sig 1911's, 2 P220's, and a P239. I have had zero issues with them. The 1911's have external extractors which I guess disqualifies them from being true 1911 pistols :confused:

I am far and away a much better shot with my Sigs than any other pistol I own. They fit my hand perfectly and point naturally for me.

Hope this helps.

Riverpigusmc 01-31-2014 03:44 PM

My Kimber and some S&W's have external extractors

GD2A 01-31-2014 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Riverpigusmc (Post 68139)
My Kimber and some S&W's have external extractors

My Kimber (Eclipse Custom II) doesn't. I wonder why some do and some don't.

DrHenley 01-31-2014 04:27 PM

Kimber botched the external extractors by making them too short. Instead of correcting them they just ditched them. I primarily blame Kimber for the bad rap external extractors have gotten.

I have a Dan Wesson with an external extractor and have no complaints. I have two Sig 1911s and I love them. I have never had any extraction issues. Zilch Zero Nada.

The grip screws are torx. They use the Series 80 firing pin block. The top profile on a Sig 1911 is more square than a traditional 1911, making the slide a little heftier. (They have a line of round-top 1911s for the purists)

Other than that, everything is pretty much standard 1911 as far as I can tell.

Both of mine came with very tight slides.
http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=593
http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=573

Caleb 01-31-2014 05:53 PM

Thank you everyone for your responses. I know Sig makes great semi-autos (alltho over priced in my opinion), just was not sure about their 1911 line-up. The external extractor does not bother me, just prefer the look of the original internal. I'm only interested in their "compact / CCO" model, the others look too "tactical" for my taste. If their 1911 track record is like the semis, it will be in the running for my next purchase.

Thank you guys again.

Xbonz 01-31-2014 06:33 PM

One of my Sigs is the C3. Bought it used...zero issues

Deleted 01-31-2014 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IamCaleb (Post 68127)
Ok, I do not know much about the Sig line of 1911s. Looking for honest opinions/explination of this platform. I have read all kinds of things on the interweb (everything is true, right?) about Sig's 1911s are not really 1911s and so on. Are they worth a look for a future purchase? Is it a waste of money that can be spent on a Kim.......uhm, I mean DW, STI, EB, WC, LB, ect...?

I like the look of their "Compact" model, therefor I ask the knowledgeable Cotepeans here.


Asking for Honest Opinions on here is like asking to be bullied.

Grouse 01-31-2014 10:41 PM

I have shot most of them. I really like the sig nightmare. For the same money though you can pick up a guardian.

Sheepdog 01-31-2014 11:17 PM

Did you think we would give you dishonest answers?:eek:

Caleb 01-31-2014 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Grouse (Post 68182)
I have shot most of them. I really like the sig nightmare. For the same money though you can pick up a guardian.

Hey bud, totally forgot to call you. Ate dinner, started to watch a movie, pig interupted it. Will hit you up tomorrow or Sunday.

I do like the guardian a lot.

Caleb 01-31-2014 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheepdog (Post 68190)
Did you think we would give you dishonest answers?:eek:

Have you heard of Ellison and pig?

DaFadda 02-01-2014 06:06 AM

I've got a SIG GSR. yes it has an external extractor, so it's not a "purist's" version of a 1911, but the design is rock solid, as its performance. It's easily the most accurate in my inventory, service dept is great, and it's built like a tank. It was one of the original 1911 rail guns, and people thought it was just plain butt ugly. That said, no ftf, fte, for failures of any kind. You won't hear a complaint about Sig 1911's from me. (Oh... and there are no mim parts in mine, but mine is an early model. they might be using mim now.)
DaFadda

milkmanjoe 02-01-2014 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DrHenley (Post 68143)
Kimber botched the external extractors by making them too short. Instead of correcting them they just ditched them. I primarily blame Kimber for the bad rap external extractors have gotten.

I have a Dan Wesson with an external extractor and have no complaints. I have two Sig 1911s and I love them. I have never had any extraction issues. Zilch Zero Nada.

The grip screws are torx. They use the Series 80 firing pin block. The top profile on a Sig 1911 is more square than a traditional 1911, making the slide a little heftier. (They have a line of round-top 1911s for the purists)

Other than that, everything is pretty much standard 1911 as far as I can tell.

Both of mine came with very tight slides.
http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=593
http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=573

That was when Kimber lost me for good. I was well aware of the problem when is was ongoing and had two friends who got no response from them. I know they have straightened it out, just have a sour taste from all that. Guess if I know all the problems that have haunted guns over the years I would have to empty my safe. That's why I say If you like a gun buy it and make it work.

DrHenley 02-01-2014 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IamCaleb (Post 68147)
I'm only interested in their "compact / CCO" model, the others look too "tactical" for my taste.

I was very skeptical of a compact 1911, what with all the horror stories of the Ghost of JMB haunting anyone that dared to tinker with his creation in such a unorthodox manner ROFL.

But my Sig Ultra Compact is an extraordinarily reliable pistol. It's right up there with my DW, maybe even a tad more reliable in fact.

The only problem I have is when I use Government/Commander length 8 round mags loaded to capacity. They sometimes bind the slide on the first round. Loaded to 7 rounds they are flawless. Since they are technically IMPROPER mags for the gun, I guess I can't complain too loudly.

I just fell in love with the little bugger on first sight, and after shooting it I loved it even more!
http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=593

Carl in GA 02-01-2014 03:51 PM

I have no experience with Sig 1911s. Of course, lack of knowledge, experience, or general common sense has never kept me from posting before and it won't now, either. :D

Personally, I don't care for the Sig-profile slide or the external extractor. I know they make a traditional slide, and I know the external extractor is supposed to be gee-whiz wonderful, but there it is. There are just too many other guns out there I'd rather have and don't have yet.

The only Sig in the house is my wife's P938. It's a solid, reliable little gun. With a blocky slide and an external extractor. :eek:

skosh69 02-01-2014 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheepdog (Post 68190)
Did you think we would give you dishonest answers?:eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamCaleb (Post 68193)
Have you heard of Ellison and pig?

Come on maaaaaan.......:rolleyes:


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