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DirtyPipes 02-04-2014 08:19 PM

HELP !!! ... I need gun safe advice !!! Sturdy? Fort Knox?
 
Because of my growing collection, it's time to purchase a RSC and I could use some advice from anyone with experience in this matter.

As I'm sure many of you have, I've been researching this since last year. I've looked, in person, at as many RSC's as possible. I've spent countless hours doing internet research on any RSC that I can't inspect in person ... it is to the point of becoming grueling !

Sturdy Safe and Fort Knox seem to lead the pack for me but not without some concerns for each. I'm not concerned about how "pretty" the RSC appears but rather how secure the RSC truly is. The location will be in a basement laundry/storage room that is poured concrete and it will be bolted down. My preference would be to spend no more than $3k but could be convinced otherwise if it seemed justified.

Sturdy seems to be the better built RSC but is not local for me to inspect ... still I lean this way.

Does anyone own a Sturdy, know someone that does, or have any experiences/opinions about the product and company ?

I would gladly welcome advice for any brand of RSC but I'm particularly interested in knowing more about Sturdy.

Thank you my friends !

titanse05 02-04-2014 08:47 PM

I bought a 3627-6 Sturdy Safe a couple years ago and highly recommend them. You get thicker steel and superior fire lining. It certainly isn't flashy like other safe makers but I chose security over beauty. To be honest, I'm satisfied with the gray speckled finish. I think it looks good.

I ordered mine without the interior and just built my own interior to fit my needs. I also opted for a taller safe to get an extra shelf.

Highly recommended!

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ronpaul50 02-04-2014 08:50 PM

I would like to recommend Liberty safes.

DirtyPipes 02-04-2014 09:20 PM

Titan ... did you order any upgrades like thicker body, etc ? Or is the standard 7g sufficient ? From pics I've seen the tolerances around the door look to be some of the tightest in the industry ... your opinion also ?

DirtyPipes 02-04-2014 09:21 PM

OK ... why the Liberty in your opinion ?

milkmanjoe 02-05-2014 02:51 AM

If ya take a ride to a BassPro store they keep a large selection of gunsafes. The beauty of this is you can see the actual footprint in person. I don't care too much about the safe(s) I buy, except for a waterproof gasket on the door. I prefer to build walls around safes, have done so for quite a few people.
A little hint...if I can lay your safe down, I own it. Just let me tip it over on its back and I own your stuff. A basement is perfect, but on a ground floor I can roll it out on pipes, alone, in minutes, tip it into a pickup and be gone. Location is as key as the securing of the safe.

DirtyPipes 02-05-2014 05:42 AM

Yes, I'm very familiar with ways steal or break into a safe.
This will be raised for flood purposes yet still bolted down. The lock side will be up against a wall to prevent the correct parting angle.

DirtyPipes 02-05-2014 09:02 AM

Prying angle is what I meant ... not parting angle ...

Grouse 02-05-2014 09:21 AM

i have 3 fort knox safes. I simply can not recommend them, the company, and their customer service enough. the level of quality, workmanship is not easily found on other safes. When you do it is usually a 1500 to 2k premium to the price. Yes, fort knox often does not come with the fru fra do-dads in the door or on the shelves. In all honesty i would never use such things anyways.

http://www.cotep.org/forum/showthrea...ight=fort+knox

sdmc530 02-05-2014 09:40 AM

I have two safes, a Cannon and a Champion. The Champion is a far better safe in over all quality and fit and finish. But I only can speak for these two safes....I like My Champion a lot!

douglas_knott 02-05-2014 09:47 AM

I have a cannon patriot and my only complaint it that it isn't big enough.

DirtyPipes 02-05-2014 08:28 PM

Thank you all for your input !

If anyone else has info on the Sturdy or any other suggestions it would be appreciated ...

Dave Waits 02-05-2014 08:56 PM

www.steelwatergunsafes.com

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...3/IMG_0058.jpg

milkmanjoe 02-06-2014 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Waits (Post 68515)

I wonder if they would give free delivery out on the dirt road at my SC house. Last safe I bought I had to fetch from 60 miles away, but fortunately I have a dual axle utility trailer.

Snipersnest 02-18-2014 05:35 PM

Here, this might help you with your decision.



http://www.6mmbr.com/gunsafes.html

titanse05 02-18-2014 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyPipes (Post 68419)
Titan ... did you order any upgrades like thicker body, etc ? Or is the standard 7g sufficient ? From pics I've seen the tolerances around the door look to be some of the tightest in the industry ... your opinion also ?

I went with the standard 7g and since it's thicker than all of the flashier safes in the same price range I was satisfied with that. The gaps around the door are mega tight..... thickness of a sheet of paper tight. Also the door is recessed so that adds to the security.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/19/sy9u4e3y.jpg

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Sheepdog 02-18-2014 10:26 PM

Size matters! Sheepdog logic, if there is space you will fill it. Don't forget all the stuff your wife is going to want to put in it. Weight matters! You don't want someone to steel your safe(Residential Security Container) with all your guns. I bolt mine down into the concrete. If you can't do that you can put lead shot bags in it to increase weight. I have a warning sign on all my safes.

Warning! This safe contains black powder! Any attempt to cut or drill this safe may have catastrophic consequences.

And they do!

Fireproof? Mine are, but if your house burns to the ground they are probably gone anyway. I do have one that is "fireproof"(longer burn time) that was originally a data safe that we locked up our drives in(old day's) it has six inch thick insulated walls. My 2 cents.

Stay away from electronic locks!!!!!!! They do wear out. Mechanical is the only way to go.IMHO

sdmc530 02-19-2014 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheepdog (Post 69630)
Size matters! Sheepdog logic, if there is space you will fill it. Don't forget all the stuff your wife is going to want to put in it. Weight matters! You don't want someone to steel your safe(Residential Security Container) with all your guns. I bolt mine down into the concrete. If you can't do that you can put lead shot bags in it to increase weight. I have a warning sign on all my safes.

Warning! This safe contains black powder! Any attempt to cut or drill this safe may have catastrophic consequences.

And they do!

Fireproof? Mine are, but if your house burns to the ground they are probably gone anyway. I do have one that is "fireproof"(longer burn time) that was originally a data safe that we locked up our drives in(old day's) it has six inch thick insulated walls. My 2 cents.


Stay away from electronic locks!!!!!!! They do wear out. Mechanical is the only way to go.IMHO

Your two cents are right on. Bigger that you think is about 1/2 what you need. I got my first stafe my champion and my wife started bring suff to put in it before I even got a gun in the darn thing. Got another safe.

Both of mine are fire rated for 1600 for 2 hours, pretty good but at that heat I too doubt much would be servicable after the that event. But I could proove what I have for insurance claim.

bolt it down if you can....mine are, you would not get them out of the house because of weight but you can't tip them over either.

NO electric locks...spot on....mech is the way to go...

Sheepdog is smarter than he looks:D


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