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GD2A 03-04-2014 10:48 PM

I need a good 1911 book
 
I'm looking for a good, basic book so I can better understand the parts and operation of the 1911 in its various configurations (70's, 80's, etc.). I know there is some expensive book that folks refer to as the bible but I'd rather start with something more basic ... but useful and informative.

I'd like one that will walk me through complete breakdown, maintenance & cleaning and explain things like extractor adjustments and basic parts replacements and dehorning, stuff I should know that need not require a trip to the gunsmith. I've heard stories of folks doing 'hack jobs' at their kitchen table and I don't want to be that guy :D

Some historical info is fine and even welcomed but I don't need to know the whole backstory of the gun, nor do I need to know all the makers and models and production runs. (Does that make sense?) I'm not looking to become a gunsmith so some uber-technical manual teaching me how to completely rebuild/restore one isn't what I seek and would be wasted on me at this stage. A book with clear and comprehensive illustrations is a must.

I've attached a link to the 1911 section from Amazon as 'my' starting point but I'm sure some of y'all can give some suggestions that may or may not be listed.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...k%3A1911+books

Thank you kindly!

Caleb 03-04-2014 11:20 PM

Interested in this as well.

jmlutz 03-04-2014 11:35 PM

Here you go,

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...utz/001-28.jpg

Lonestar grips. 03-04-2014 11:41 PM

^^^^^this!!!

Sheepdog 03-05-2014 12:46 AM

What they said.:D

Lane 03-05-2014 12:55 AM

Kuhnhausen for the win!

GD2A 03-05-2014 06:21 AM

OK, so that's unanimous, thank you! Which one of the two should I start with?

Riverpigusmc 03-05-2014 06:29 AM

Those, and Bill Wilson wrote some good ones too

milkmanjoe 03-05-2014 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by IamCaleb (Post 71082)
Interested in this as well.

You must first learn to read, grasshopper.

GD2A 03-05-2014 08:11 AM

How about a basic tool kit...
 
Is something like this worth buying for the basics or unnecessary? FWIW, I don't have too much in the way of small screwdrivers and I have no punches.

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-to...ade%20in%20USA

RandallZ 03-05-2014 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GD2A (Post 71096)
Is something like this worth buying for the basics or unnecessary? FWIW, I don't have too much in the way of small screwdrivers and I have no punches.

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-to...ade%20in%20USA

I can't be *entirely* certain, but the screwdrivers in the photo appear to be cabinet tipped rather than proper hollow ground tips which should be used for smith work. I'm surprised that Brownells would do that. Do yourself a favor and get the right kind of screwdriver to work on your firearms.

Randall

GD2A 03-05-2014 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RandallZ (Post 71100)
Do yourself a favor and get the right kind of screwdriver to work on your firearms.

Randall

Thank you, I'm glad I asked. To the point of getting the right tools, how do I determine what's, what? Any brands you recommend as good to go?

Caleb 03-05-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by milkmanjoe (Post 71095)
You must first learn to read, grasshopper.

It has pictures don't it? I'm all good then.

GD2A 03-06-2014 08:45 PM

Just ordered JK's Volume One! Thanks again for the book recommendation.

zukinut 03-08-2014 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GD2A (Post 71101)
Thank you, I'm glad I asked. To the point of getting the right tools, how do I determine what's, what? Any brands you recommend as good to go?

Snap-on. If your mechanically inclined the internals are very basic, robust and easy to understand. I'd rather rebuild 1911's all day if I could. :D

sdmc530 03-08-2014 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by zukinut (Post 71393)
Snap-on. If your mechanically inclined the internals are very basic, robust and easy to understand. I'd rather rebuild 1911's all day if I could. :D

I agree...snap on and craftsman are what I use for home tools...HOWEVER get a screwdrivers for gunsmithing, there is a differnce between common screw drivers and gunsmithing ones...you may not know the differnce but they make a difference when using them!!!

GD2A 03-08-2014 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sdmc530 (Post 71405)
I agree...snap on and craftsman are what I use for home tools...HOWEVER get a screwdrivers for gunsmithing, there is a differnce between common screw drivers and gunsmithing ones...you may not know the differnce but they make a difference when using them!!!

Of this I have no doubt and I thought that's what I was asking about when seeking best brands to buy :D

any recommendations for GUNSMITHING tools?

Caleb 03-08-2014 10:17 PM

You can get nice sets from brownells, just dont buy the cheap priced ones.

Riverpigusmc 03-08-2014 10:29 PM

Yup. Hollow ground gunsmith screwdrivers...brass punches. Brownells or Midway

GD2A 03-08-2014 10:40 PM

Would one of you be kind enough to provide me with a link for a good basic set?

The one I posted earlier in this thread was rejected in the $100 price range. Clearly I don't know how much I should be spending or what to spend it on - thanks!

PS, I have no designs of opening a shop so I don't need the best, just a solid basic set.

dw1911 03-08-2014 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GD2A (Post 71413)
Would one of you be kind enough to provide me with a link for a good basic set?

The one I posted earlier in this thread was rejected in the $100 price range. Clearly I don't know how much I should be spending or what to spend it on - thanks!

PS, I have no designs of opening a shop so I don't need the best, just a solid basic set.

This looks like a decent set of "Hollow Ground" Screwdrivers. That makes all the difference, hollow ground fits the screws best.
http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-to...Filters_1=Made in USA

GD2A 03-09-2014 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dw1911 (Post 71416)
This looks like a decent set of "Hollow Ground" Screwdrivers. That makes all the difference, hollow ground fits the screws best.
http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-to...Filters_1=Made in USA

Thanks, it's in my cart now!

dw1911 03-09-2014 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GD2A (Post 71417)
Thanks, it's in my cart now!

I am sure they'll serve you well. Glad to assist my Friend.

jmlutz 03-09-2014 01:04 PM

I just ordered this
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=4...TIP-Add-On-Pak

and this just to have.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=5...crewdriver-Set

GD2A 03-09-2014 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jmlutz (Post 71425)

While I can't tell for sure it seems one was designed with room for the other!

dw1911 03-09-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GD2A (Post 71454)
While I can't tell for sure it seems one was designed with room for the other!

Apparantly so.

NAMVET72 03-09-2014 08:51 PM

Get both it will help you out Alot.


Clyde

Dave Waits 03-11-2014 04:13 PM

If I may, I would suggest you go online and download/print a copy of FM 25-35. This is the Army Field Manual for the 1911/1911A1. The download is free and it's everything you want as far as parts, theory of operation, etc.

I've been working and messing with 1911s for over thirty years and still have a copy on my Bench.

GD2A 03-11-2014 04:23 PM

Thanks Dave!

SharpestJim 01-05-2016 09:14 AM

This is a GREAT thread for a newbie - to 1911's in general and to this forum in particular - like me.

This one thread is worth the price of admission!

Sheepdog 01-05-2016 10:40 AM

1911's can be disassembled without additional tools if you know how. Tools make it easier.

NAMVET72 01-05-2016 01:46 PM

This Gentleman is a COTEP Member and I have both editions autographed,


http://www.amazon.com/M1911-Complete...rds=1911+books


Clyde


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