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skosh69 01-04-2015 12:26 AM

Shooting a S&W 500 FAIL
 
http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/...psflx7g90i.gif

She lucky she didn't hurt herself. I've shot these before, it's not for the timid or weak.

Caleb 01-04-2015 12:53 AM

Wow.... :facepalm:

dw1911 01-04-2015 01:14 AM

Ouch is right! Poor Woman. Those guns are not for the weaker to shoot. They pack one Heck of a recoil! I have shot one a few times! RECOIL! :eek:

sdmc530 01-04-2015 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamCaleb (Post 97903)
Wow.... :facepalm:

said it there buddy.

brownie 01-04-2015 12:02 PM

Check the force applied to the wrist and elbow.

Gotta roll with these big guys, not try to fight the force as she did. I leave them alone when asked to shoot them myself.

DrHenley 01-04-2015 12:20 PM

I've had a little experience with big kickers. I developed a technique with my 454 Casull that allows the force to be dissipated without getting hit in the head with the pistol. Of course that's an Encore pistol that is not really suitable for a conventional hold. With the Encore pistol, the 12" barrel, with no cylinder gap, develops significantly more recoil than a 10" revolver.

I was at the range shooting it and a guy with a 500 S&W was there at the same time, and we shot each other's pistols and compared notes. Both were about equally painful...

I taught my daughter to shoot the Casull, starting with a light load, then a medium load (equivalent to a 44 mag max load) to get the technique down and then went to a max load. Notice the right elbow is bent to allow the arm to flex at the elbow. She is pushing forward with the right hand and pulling back with the left, preloading the force applied by the right arm to keep the gun from flying straight back. This allows the upper arm to remain stationary while the forarm bends up with the recoil, allowing the gun to travel safely backwards and upwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIM2m7aTeI8

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=888

zukinut 01-04-2015 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrHenley (Post 97938)
I've had a little experience with big kickers. I developed a technique with my 454 Casull that allows the force to be dissipated without getting hit in the head with the pistol. Of course that's an Encore pistol that is not really suitable for a conventional hold. With the Encore pistol, the 12" barrel, with no cylinder gap, develops significantly more recoil than a 10" revolver.

I was at the range shooting it and a guy with a 500 S&W was there at the same time, and we shot each other's pistols and compared notes. Both were about equally painful...

I taught my daughter to shoot the Casull, starting with a light load, then a medium load (equivalent to a 44 mag max load) to get the technique down and then went to a max load. Notice the right elbow is bent to allow the arm to flex at the elbow. She is pushing forward with the right hand and pulling back with the left, preloading the force applied by the right arm to keep the gun from flying straight back. This allows the upper arm to remain stationary while the forarm bends up with the recoil, allowing the gun to travel safely backwards and upwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIM2m7aTeI8

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=888



That was a big ol great smile on her face :)

zukinut 01-04-2015 06:42 PM

I like shooting the bigger bore wheel guns when I have the chance. My buddy has a 44 mag I like shooting off at steel plates. You have to have some strength and technique to do it. Not just giving someone who doesn't have a clue something like that always seems to end badly. :mad:

brownie 01-04-2015 07:33 PM

Also, notice the gas escaping from the muzzle, but it appears the gases aren't escaping through/at the forcing cone but the rear of the cylinder and possibly through the hammer. I don't see any flash where I expected it to be.

Xbonz 01-04-2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brownie (Post 97976)
Also, notice the gas escaping from the muzzle, but it appears the gases aren't escaping through/at the forcing cone but the rear of the cylinder and possibly through the hammer. I don't see any flash where I expected it to be.

To what do you attribute those issues?

brownie 01-05-2015 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xbonz (Post 97977)
To what do you attribute those issues?

I don't know, I've never seen the flash come from the back of the cylinder and not the forcing cone area on a revo

milkmanjoe 01-05-2015 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xbonz (Post 97977)
To what do you attribute those issues?

Maybe an overcharged reload and the case split?

BeerHunter 01-05-2015 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkmanjoe (Post 98002)
Maybe an overcharged reload and the case split?

Wondered the same thing. :confused:

Colt Hammerless 01-05-2015 02:30 PM

I noticed that as well, and wondered if there might have been a pierced primer. Don't know if it would cause a gas escape of that magnitude or not. Maybe the split case theory is right.

Paul

milkmanjoe 01-05-2015 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colt Hammerless (Post 98015)
I noticed that as well, and wondered if there might have been a pierced primer. Don't know if it would cause a gas escape of that magnitude or not. Maybe the split case theory is right.

Paul

I though about the primer too...maybe an off center strike and primer popped on one side?

dw1911 01-05-2015 06:51 PM

Here's the way I see it
The .gif image is slowed down from actual speed. In reality the flash came from the front of the cylinder at the forcing cone . It just recoiled so fast backwards that the camera makes it appear like it comes from the rear when in fact it did not. Trick of the eye so to speak?
That's my theory. For what it is worth.


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