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brownie 05-13-2016 05:40 PM

Firearms trainers only-response requested
 
There's a lot of posturing and more than a few suggestions from "other than trainers" all over the net, that trainers have ulterior motives in advancing the idea of training. It's suggested at times, that they advance training to increase their bottom net, a financial interest by attempting to sway students to their courses by threads/posts they make.

So, trainers only, here's the question I'd like you consider and respond to get an idea of what trainers have taken courses before hanging their shingle out. That might be a better indication of their mindset about training, if they themselves have footed the bill and had a training mindset prior to hanging a shingle out. I'll start,

I didn't hang a shingle until 05. Training courses I personally paid for professional training before the shingle.

10 days of counter terr training 180 hours
5 days of swat, twice fo10 days of training 80 hours
5 days of swat with another co. 40 hours
5 days counter sniper 40 hours
5 days advanced driving for EP work 40 hours
34 days of small blades [ folders primarily ] weapons training 270+ hours
4 days long blade 32 hours
2 days stick 16 hours
1 day flexible weapons 8 hours
1 day cane 8 hours
1/2 day on kubaton 4 hours

300 hours of firearms training
40 hours of driving
302 hours of small blade training
32 hours bowie training
16 hours on stick
8 hours flexible weapons
8 hours cane
4 hours kubaton

total 710 hours over 35 years. That's 2.5 days of paid professional training per year, on average on my own dime. Cost would be in the neighborhood of $53,000.00 excluding ammo over 35 years, or about 1500.00 per year excluding ammo. There was a whole lot more training, but it was paid for by someone else and should be excluded [ how much did the trainer exhibit spending his own dimes on training and for how long ]

This MIGHT suggest to most, that when I advance skills training and courses be taken, the mindset behind the recommendation is solely based on my own thoughts as to how important training is to myself, and thus by extension, to others.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess trainers here will have exhibited the same traits and thoughts about the importance of training by the number of courses they paid for out of their own pocket as wel, before ever becoming a trainer themselves.

bttbbob 05-14-2016 12:23 PM

training courses and time
 
State Dept/MSG School. 3 months
NBC course
Force Continuum
Lethal and Non-Lethal Weapons
Riot COntrol
Personal and Facility Security
Anti-Terrorism training
Driving School

USMC Rifle & Pistol Coach 3-weeks
USMC PMI COurse-6 weeks
Rex Applegates Kill or Get Killed Instructor School 3 mos
Marine Corps Foreign Weapons Instructor Course 1 month

Cooper API Combat Pistol 1 week
Jim Cirillo's Modern day gunfishts 3 days
L Awerbucks Combat Shotgun 3 days

NRA Basic Pistol Instructor-2 days
NRA Basic Rifle Instructor2-days
NRA Basic Instructor Shotgun 2 days
NRA Personal Protection Inside the Home Instructor 2 days
NRA Personal Protection Outside the Home 2 Days
NRA Range Safety Officer 1 day
NRA Chief Range Safety Officer 2 days
NRA Training Counselor 5 days


And there are others I have forgotten.......


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