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FfNJGTFO 07-28-2017 07:43 AM

A Scarlet Letter for Gun Owners
 
Gun Talk - A Scarlet Letter for Gun Owners

Apparently, a grandfather in Michigan was seeking custody of his grandson. The State Dept. of HHS, via a caseworker, advised him that to be awarded custody, "you'll have to provide all the serial numbers of your guns." And the judge who heard the appeal, apparently, concurred with that order... "We know we are violating numerous constitutional rights here, but if you do not comply, we will remove the boy from your home..."

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Apparently, SAF is taking them on. We'll see where that case goes. The are some things, though, that I'd want to know about the case. First, how did the State Dept. of HHS find out that the grandfather was a gun owner in the first place? Are firearms ID's and transactions "public record" in Michigan? Did a family member "rat" on the grandfather? Also, assuming the judge did say those things, I'd want to bring that judge up against the judiciary regulatory board for such a flagrant violation. I guess that judge feels safe in imposing those orders. http://www.floridaconcealedcarry.com...6&d=1418520456

Caleb 07-28-2017 08:18 AM

I'm so glad to live in a free state.

JohnR 07-28-2017 08:18 AM

I've been following that on other forums. Benefit of the doubt - maybe the judge knew the law was wrong to require gun serial numbers, but there isn't a damn thing he can do about it. Judges have to follow the rule of law, they can't change it or ignore it.

TLE2 07-28-2017 03:45 PM

I've seen such things pop up even in Oklahoma.

RKP 07-28-2017 04:04 PM

I wouldn't get all worked up over this Arnold, I'd bet that judge will get set straight. ;)

Just as a good example, my BIL/SIL became foster parents for a brother/sister. The BIL/SIL own a farm and are in to guns (pistols/rifles/shotguns, etc.) and, after divulging they owed guns all they had to do was prove/show that they had a gun safe which would secure all of them. The brother/sister are now living on said farm and learning gun safety and shooting and are in 'hog heaven' !! :cool:

FfNJGTFO 07-28-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RKP (Post 153631)
I wouldn't get all worked up over this Arnold, I'd bet that judge will get set straight. ;)

Just as a good example, my BIL/SIL became foster parents for a brother/sister. The BIL/SIL own a farm and are in to guns (pistols/rifles/shotguns, etc.) and, after divulging they owed guns all they had to do was prove/show that they had a gun safe which would secure all of them. The brother/sister are now living on said farm and learning gun safety and shooting and are in 'hog heaven' !! :cool:

The particulars of this incident don't concern me directly, as it's probably a bit late in life for me to have children. However, any govt. intrusion of this nature is of some concern. If they can get away with this, they can get away with other things. After all, they just reversed the "Docs vs. Glocks" law here in FL. :rolleyes::facepalm:

RKP 07-29-2017 06:33 AM

^^^ I'm right there with ya when it comes to 'fightin the fight' and 'nippin it in the bud' !! http://www.cotep.org/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif


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