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NWDave 05-24-2012 11:35 AM

45 Auto +P and DW Commander
 
My DW Commander Bobtail has a build year of 2008. My wife, bless her heart, bought some Hornady 45 Auto +P, 230 gr XTP (product #9096) as a gift (it's the little things in life that make memorable days ;)). I've asked around about using +P but there are just too many different opinions. It's been mentioned that 45 Auto -normal pressure - SAAMI is approximately 21,000 psi and 45 Auto +P is approximately 23,000 psi. So-o-o-o, your considered opinion to the question: is +P OK to use in the Commander or secretly return the +P ammo and get normal 45 Auto. An additional piece of information is that the +P would be for carry only, not for range or competion work.

MajO 05-24-2012 11:50 AM

Dave,

I would expect that you will receive many opinions on the answer to your question. IMHO, as you provided the context that the your only use of the +P ammunition would be to carry in your DW, kind of like a fire extinguisher, then I say: go ahead, if it makes you feel better protected.

Firing +P ammunition regularly is supposed to invalidate some warrantees and require you to change springs and such much sooner. I don't carry or shoot +P, but that's just me.

This will be an interesting thread to follow.

Best wishes.

Roverron 05-24-2012 12:04 PM

I'd suggest contacting DW to see. Most 1911's don't play real nice with +P. My NH and my USP are +P rated and the paperwork states as such.

Dave Waits 05-24-2012 12:41 PM

Dave, I shoot a lot of +P 45ACP through my RIA without any problems, your DW should be fine. For a long time I used Hornady TAP XTP 230gr.+Ps as my carry-load. They did 904fps ave(Chrono'd) in my five-inch Rock. Now, I carry Winchester Premium 230gr. SXTs in it, they do a flat 900fps.

mjkortan 05-24-2012 05:38 PM

I see no issue with it. I too asked this question awhile back but didn't receive much response. A phone call to dw and my Vbob now has a 20lb recoil spring. I received as a pay back 1000 rounds of win ranger t +p:D. I plan on using that as my carry ammo and have run about 250 rounds through my Vbob with no issues.
Like I said if you plan on shooting alot of it I would suggest upgrading to a 20lb recoil spring, Saves the slide and frame abuse caused by +p ammo.

jmlutz 05-24-2012 06:01 PM

I've never had a problem with +P in my DW's you should be fine. Mike

TLE2 05-24-2012 07:09 PM

And I've never had a problem with +P in my Kimber.

Kicks hard, and bites, but the gun goes on and on and on and on.

ColMike 05-24-2012 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NWDave (Post 26305)
. An additional piece of information is that the +P would be for carry only, not for range or competion work.

I don't like the idea of having ammo in my weapon that I haven't fired enough to consider it reliable to carry. It may not be my normal practice ammo but I will have fired it enough to trust it. YMMV

NWDave 05-24-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjkortan (Post 26318)
I see no issue with it. I too asked this question awhile back but didn't receive much response. A phone call to dw and my Vbob now has a 20lb recoil spring. I received as a pay back 1000 rounds of win ranger t +p:D. I plan on using that as my carry ammo and have run about 250 rounds through my Vbob with no issues.
Like I said if you plan on shooting alot of it I would suggest upgrading to a 20lb recoil spring, Saves the slide and frame abuse caused by +p ammo.

Now I gotta dig up the paperwork and see what spring came with the CBOB. I thought it was a 20lb spring.

Jdl2 05-24-2012 08:18 PM

Dave,

If you call or email Keith Lawton you'll learn what you need to know and make a personal connection with The Man at Dan Wesson. Great guy and always happy to help.

On a personal note. What are the chances of your wife divorcing you and marrying me :)

Jim

Keith Lawton
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