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svandamme 10-23-2011 08:53 AM

change of poi as gun warms up?
 
I'm relatively new at this, have about 350 rounds down with my PM7.
It shoots low, have adjusted the sights up.. But i get the idea that the point of impact changes as the gun warms up?
At 10 meters, If i aim for dead center when cold , i'm below the black.
But after 30-35 rounds, i'm right on the money where i aim.

Had this several times now.. but not sure if i am doing this myself, or does the POI considerably change as the gun warms up? :confused:

zenfly 10-23-2011 09:52 AM

If you're new it may be a good idea to have someone else who you know in a good shooter run it for you off a bench and bags.. Also I have a diopter that goes on my glasses that help you get the target and the sights more in focus at the same time.. I bought it back when i used to shoot a 85lb steel rams at 200yds. in IHMSA.. A very handy item..

Edit: I just searched for a clip on diopter and can't find one... Get a pair of old glasses and use a piece of tape with a 1/16" hole punched in it and tape on the lens over your dominant eye and peek through the hole.. you'll see real cheep how it works with the pistol sights..

svandamme 10-23-2011 09:57 AM

I know i'm crap with the 45 offhanded, but 2 handed i've managed some reasonable groups. And it's all in the center, it's just that If i point center when it's cold, i get a low group, reasonable group, but low and it seems to creep up when it warms up.

Guess it's just me then?

douglas_knott 10-23-2011 01:58 PM

i personally haven't heard of a gun doing what your explaining. are you free handing the shots or using a bag? try using a bag starting out and see how it shoots.

Dave Waits 10-23-2011 08:35 PM

Sounds like you're pulling down on the trigger. Try shooting from a rest cold.

Riverpigusmc 10-23-2011 08:56 PM

I agree with Doug and Dave..shoot from a rest and then you can determine if it's you or the gun..only time I've heard of that is from a full auto weapon when the barrel was HOT..doubt thats your trouble

svandamme 10-24-2011 05:20 AM

wildo, thanks for the feedback

douglas_knott 10-24-2011 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 8672)
wildo, thanks for the feedback

let us know the outcome please

svandamme 10-30-2011 08:02 AM

never mind the .22 holes, i just re-used somebody's card


first set of 10 rounds right handed @ 10 meters

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319975866.jpg

second set of 10 rounds right handed @ 10 meters

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319975910.jpg

10 rounds, 2 handed @ 25 meters (bad pic but you get the idea)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319975937.jpg


2 x 10 rounds @ 10 meters green is right handed, purple is lefthanded

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319975992.jpg


I first ran 50 rounds with a Ruger .22 as warm up...Which improved my .45 results considerably, all in all, i guess this answers my question : It was me, not the gun.
Quite happy with this result, especially since i'm a bit hungover this morning :D

jcc7x7 11-06-2011 08:56 PM

You might try a different lube on your pistol that may be more heat resistant and not cause binding. If the pistol is changing POI when hot something is binding. Hope this helps


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