Try Starline brass: 8.3 grains of VV N350 under a 165 grain remington golden sabre. It gives about 1250 fps out of my CBOB and about 1310 out of my G20 with the comped KKM barrel. These velocities are verified over a chronograph. They show no signs of pressure in my two firearms but your mileage may vary. Be carefull etc. On a side note this load produces almost no flash whatsoever. That was verified by night firing. Hope this helps