tell me about this gun

[GD2A]

I realize the irony of the following statement but ... I've been reading enough good things on various sites to finally put DW on my radar as a gun I might want to own. Money is an issue and I'd probably have to part with my Eclipse Custom II if I decided to get another high end 1911. What I'm weighing as a potential next gun is a Gold Cup against a DW.

Can y'all please tell me about this gun - not the crap I can read online but the real-deal, nitty gritty truth about this entry level model. Is it worth buying, is the 'next model up' a substantially better shooter, should I try and find a Pre-CZ DW, etc?

Thank you kindly

http://www.centerfireguns.com/cz-usa...urce=slickguns

[DrHenley]

It is more or less a resurrection of the popular "Razorback" with a Clark-style rib.

I have a Pre-CZ DW, and while I love it, I don't think it is in any way superior to the current DWs.

[Sheepdog]

I would get rid of a mimber for a DW everyday. I have both pre CZ and post cz DW's. The current line is great. I have never had a problem with either. DW over a Gold Cup hard call for me. They are two totally different in that the DW's are really tight tolerances and the Gold Cup, well it's a Colt.You can get a good used pre VBOB, Valor for a decent price.

[BadOscar]

If you are looking to get a shooter I would opt for the DW. In general they are very tight out of the box. I have personally never seen a DW with a loose slide to frame fit. A DW may require a little more break in but it will likely be noticeably more accurate than a series 2 mimber or a newer gold cup.

[Grouse]

I have a RZ 45 heritage. It was so tight that even after cleaning and lube with oil it galled up on me on the second shot. That took me about 4 hours to get the slide off the frame. Another six to get the galling removed. I used bore paste and slow deliberate strokes with the back side of emory cloth wrapped around a popsicle stick.

After an hour and half of that i was able to mate the slide and frame. I used bore paste and racked the slide for the last 3.5 hours. Cleaning regularly, oiling, and more paste. When i finished it was still insanely tight, but rolled as good as any gun i had. It still took about 500 rounds to break it in after the initial two rounds. It is a tight, functional gun.

So would i buy it again? Yes, I make sure though that i use all of the oil on the frame and rack just the two back and forth for at least an hour before cleaning, oiling and shooting. I picked up a pm9 the other day that was just as tight and did not have any issues with galling. Some feeding issues, but by that time the gun had fired 200 rounds as fast as i could reload. The other local guy went in and shot the pistol out of the box, against my recommendation for racking slide to the frame for an hour and galled it in place. Thankfully his was able to seperate pretty easily and i saw him there a few days later running it like a 100 year old singer sewing machine.

As for the pistol it is a quick pointer, the big front dot is super for quick pick up. I like the clark rib. I do find for some reason that my grip shifts on this, where is does not on my pm7. So i may put some grip tape on the front of it, or have it checkered.

pre cz guns IMHO don't hold a candle to the current models. The overall fit and finish is better on the current ones. If you do, find an old one, pick it up from a reputable DW dealer like severns custom. Have him go over it. you will not regret it.

[GD2A]

Thanks folks, I appreciate the replies thus far!