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Default MS TCM/9mm Doublestack 51943...Should I?

Aside from AutoMag's personalized one, I've never seen anyone with one of these. I have a chance to get one from a distributor who just got in a small batch of these. But they are quite a bit more expensive than a typical RIA. Bud's last price on this model was $739 i think.

I don't really have the funds to invest in one more gun, but if I knew there was a demand for this model I'd go ahead and order one. I've got some tables at a local gun show next month. I'm just concerned about the price. Are people really going to pay say $725-$735 for a Rock Island?

I'd like to buy it for myself, but have other obligations right now.
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Is this what you are talking about?




http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=RI51943
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http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=RI51943
Colt cant stop me from calling a 4.25" 1911 Commander size. And after shooting my single stack 22TCM I'm hooked and now I want the double stack version.
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So is the 22 TCM just a necked down 5.56? How do the ballistics compare?
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So is the 22 TCM just a necked down 5.56? How do the ballistics compare?
The COAL of a 5.56 would never fit in a 1911 frame.

Perhaps the .22TCM is a necked down 9X19mm?

I don't know.

Edit: Did some looking around. It is a 5.56 shortened to an approximate .38 super length.
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The 22TC is a 223 case shortened to these specs, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TC...:22tcm_prm.jpg

It is loaded to the same OAL as a 45 ACP so it will fit in the 1911 platform. The cartridge is loaded with a 22 caliber 40 grain HP and is capable of exceeding 2000 fps in a 5" 1911. The bullets are flat nosed and are normally loaded in a 22 Hornet.
I just recently discovered this round myself even though it has been out for a couple years or more. The muzzle blast is huge and it is very loud but surprisingly the recoil is like shooting a 22 LR through a 40 ounce pistol, There is very little muzzle rise and the front sights come back on target quickly. The accuracy is also impressive.
Armscor is also developing a conversion kit for s but they made a
22TCMR for that which is a necked down 9mm. I don't know when that may be available.
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Yes. That's the model.
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I like it.....but I probably wouldn't buy one. Not a fan of the caliber but that is me!
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That's what I was afraid most people would think. $735 for a Rock Island i think might put people off and $20/box for the TCM ammo might be just as bad.
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That is not a bad price on that Model. You have to stop and remember though that you are actually getting 2 guns for that price, the TCM22 and a 9MM. The gun will definitely sell as we cannot keep them in stock. Just as soon as a batch hits our warehouse they are shipped out to distributors that have dealers already waiting on them.

The TCM is a very nice round, quite a few friends in the law enforcement field are carrying them now and SWAT Teams are asking to demo the gun.

Here is my TCM 22 5" "demo gun" that I will be showing to the local SWAT and SEAL Teams here.


And here is my custom carry TCM 22.

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