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Old 04-13-2011, 07:15 PM
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I've had a bunch of puny pistols over the years with a KelTec P11 and AMT 380 Backup II lasting the longest. The P11 had a lousy long trigger pull and was no fun to shoot but very very reliable. The factory belt clip was a great feature making concealed carry cheap and easy. My youngest son owns it now.

The old AMT was one of the good ones in that it not only went boom every time the trigger was pulled, the grip and thumb safeties worked very well. But despite the weight, it too was no fun to shoot. I also found I had to alter my grip to be able to thumb off the safety. Didn't make for the fastest to get into action at all. It's gone, traded in on a Mossberg 500

These days I have but one puny pistol which serves as a BUG and in warm weather, when carrying a Dan CCO just isn't practical, a prime. It has familiar controls similar to the classic 1911 in many ways. Very sweet to shoot! Mine has proved reliable although like far too many guns these days this model had an initial recall and some teething issues. A 3rd iteration of both recoil spring and magazine designs seems to have finally solved things for the marketplace. Highly recommended!

Some eschew cocked 'n locked for any pistol carried in a pocket. Personally I see absolutely no problems especially with this pistol which has a VERY positive engagement of the thumb safety and sound internal safety design.

The 380 is no ones favorite round but as many have opined, it beats not having a gun at all. I favor flat nosed solids over JHPs and pack either Buffalo Bore 100gr +P hardcast lead or Winchester Q4206 95gr FMJ-FN.

A leather front pocket holster from RKBA or a "clipless" IWB from Remora handle the duties well. Sarge's Malle grips have displaced an earlier Brazilian Cherry set I picked up elsewhere.




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Old 04-13-2011, 07:59 PM
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I'm with you. Around the farm the CCO is just too big when working. I carry a P238 in an IWB and at times it seems like I've lost it because it's light and comfortable.

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Old 04-14-2011, 10:23 AM
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I bought mine for no other reason than i think it's cool...


and was pleasantly surprised at how well it shot.

I bought the HD model cause i figured "if" I'd ever carry it, I'd stoke it with heavy +P ammo and shoot a fair amount of it


I'm playing around with different grips now.
different thickness and stuff too











to date, I've shot appx 400 rnds thru it.
I've had no FTF with any ammo (that includes 100 rnds of various HP ammo)

but three times the trigger failed to reset

Because of that, I won't trust this pistol for carry til i detail strip and have a look at what's going on




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Old 04-14-2011, 10:34 AM
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I bought 1 last fall just for warmer weather (I actually had 1 on order for almost a year). Now that summer is almost here, it will finally get to go places other than the range.
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I bought one for my wife to shoot three months ago and I have to say that it is a neat little shooter. It is in dire need of some new wooden grips though (like that last set of buckeye burls of Cap's).

Between my wife and I we have put 200 rounds thru it so far with the only problem being that about a total of 10 times a round doesn't fire with the first trigger pull. But once you recock and pull the trigger the second time on the same round it goes BANG. Not sure if this is hard primers (PMC ammuniton) or if the mainspring is a little underpowered.
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Here is a pic of my wife's sig





She really likes it but can not hit the side of a barn as she shoots right but is left eye dominant. I am buying her a Crimson Trace laser this week as they are running a $50 rebate on all lasers sold between April 2 and June 30th.
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I bought my Sig 238 for easier concealed carry. I carry in in a pocket holster. At the range, I did have several stovepipe's with winchester whitebox (Walmart), but not so much now. Overall, I am happy with it, for what it is.

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I bought my Sig 238 for easier concealed carry. I carry in in a pocket holster. At the range, I did have several stovepipe's with winchester whitebox (Walmart), but not so much now. Overall, I am happy with it, for what it is.

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Ryan,

Thanks for that detailed response. It's much appreciated. I asked because at one time I packed a P11 9mm as my BUG. Had it for over a decade. With the factory belt clip it slid nicely inside my pants. Very reliable as it went bang every time I pulled the trigger. BUT it was an absolute POS to shoot.... long heavy trigger pull despite being fluffed 'n buffed. It simply didn't lend itself to any decent range time so although reliable it wasn't a second nature BUG. My son has it now and with his bigger hands loves it. Go figure

I also had an AMT 380 Backup II which was one of the good ones they built. But it too was not ergonomically friendly for my hand requiring a major grip shift for my thumb to be able to snick off the safety. It also was a POS to shoot at the range. After well over a decade of ownership it got traded in on a Mossy 500.

The P238 is a different kettle of fish. Fun to shoot. Very accurate. Great ergonomics. Easy to carry concealed condition one and deploy quickly. An excellent BUG. I too use it as a prime when my CCO (stoked with Winchester Ranger RA45TP 230gr +P JHP) doesn't make sense to carry. It may not be a 9mm but the little 380 works as a close range defensive caliber especially with Buffalo Bore 27A 100gr +P hardcast flatnose or Winchester Q4206 95gr JHP-FN. BTW mine is a basic Nitron without nite sights with a build date of May '10. I'm quite pleased with the CCO/P238 combination. I had flirted with the notion of the new Kahr CM9 (cheaper version of the PM9) simply for the 9mm chambering but that has long since passed. Your experience simply reaffirms that my thinking was spot on!
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