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Old 01-08-2014, 02:35 AM
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Default DHS Targets Disturbing

Seems the DHS uses some odd targets for their practice.

http://c.washingtontimes.com/neighbo...ng-children-p/
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Old 01-08-2014, 08:03 AM
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If you notice, each target has a subject pointing a gun at you. We had similar targets when when we trained our officers. It included women and others, but no children. An officer has mili-seconds to make a life or death decision, ergo the reason for those types of targets. An officers first duty is to go home after his shift, he is not required to be a punching bag or bullet catcher for anyone. Just sayin'.
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Old 01-08-2014, 09:16 AM
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If you notice, each target has a subject pointing a gun at you. We had similar targets when when we trained our officers. It included women and others, but no children. An officer has mili-seconds to make a life or death decision, ergo the reason for those types of targets. An officers first duty is to go home after his shift, he is not required to be a punching bag or bullet catcher for anyone. Just sayin'.
I understand that part, many friends who were military, now current or retired LEO. I see the LEO in a different light than DHS, different training protocol. Not being an expert by any means, in my thoughts they would train a higher percentage of what they might encounter. A local LEO, with domestic disputes, probably has a higher probability of engaging a woman with a gun than a DHS agent. But, as you said, no children were in your target lineup, so I can only guess the concerns are changing, and the training with it.
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I agree with Snipersnest. While these maybe offensive, they are holding "what appears to be a weapon". However, I would add a child holding a toy gun with red barrel cap to the mix.
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I agree with Snipersnest. While these maybe offensive, they are holding "what appears to be a weapon". However, I would add a child holding a toy gun with red barrel cap to the mix.
Good add to the mix! But, an LEO cannot take that chance. I get it. A weapon pointed at said LEO must be treated as a real weapon. However, the LEO does have body armor and should be trained to move "off the X" and identify whatever is visible. And I will openly admit, that in a scared as hell moment I could not make myself do all that in a millisecond, and I cannot expect it from anyone else.
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