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Only in NY one can get manslaughter charges while defending life and family members from a home invasion involving no less than 5 perps, some of them armed.

NY is a self-created cesspool of crime-loving voters.


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A Huntington Station man charged with manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide for killing an alleged would-be burglar last March is practically a free man after a mistrial paved the way for him to take a plea deal.

At one point, Youssef Abdelgawad, 26, faced up to 15 years in prison; on Jan. 8, he was ordered to pay $250 in fines and fees and sentenced to a one-year conditional discharge Jan. 8.
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Bryant, who law enforcement officials said was not the man who approached the back door, made it to a neighboring property before he was shot twice in the back of the head. Suffolk County police in August found Bryant’s lifeless body in a dark-colored sedan parked near West Hills Road and Eighth Street, more than a block away from the scene.
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Two shots to the back of the head doesn't sound like self defense to me.

But, video shows otherwise.
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Why to reasonable people 1) allow such crap in their state 2) live in such a state.
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Two shots to the back of the head doesn't sound like self defense to me.

But, video shows otherwise.
Two thoughts jump out at me.

First: Ask Mas about shots to the back.

Second: with 5 perps he may have been trying to shoot one of the others and missed and struck him in the back of the head.
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I've investigated hundreds of shootings, so I gave up a long time ago on having an opinion or getting up in arms based on what the press or others may put out. It's either piecemeal, limited, false, or a combination thereof.
There's been many times where a shooting initially looked bad and after a thorough investigation it was determined (by us and a grand jury) that it was justified. Then there were others that, unfortunately, were bad.
My point is this, these stories are never complete nor give an accurate or complete picture.

To that end NY does suck, but so does NJ. I live 20 minutes outside of NYC. Every time I go into the city I have to download my gun and load up with non-hollowpoints.
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I've investigated hundreds of shootings, so I gave up a long time on having an opinion based on what the press or others may put out. It's either piecemeal, limited, false, or a combination thereof.
There's been many times where a shooting initially looked bad and after a thorough investigation it was determined (by us and a grand jury) that it was justified. Then there were others that, unfortunately, were bad.
My point is this, these stories are never complete nor give an accurate or complete picture.

To that end NY does suck, but so does NJ. I live 20 minutes outside of NYC. Every time I go into the city I have to download my gun and load up with non-hollowpoints.
...you forgot [completely made up to increase sales, or for TV ratings]
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