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To achieve the proper eye relief, the standard practice is to mount the scope so that the rear of the ocular lens is roughly even with the rear of the charging handle. The position of the scope in the low ring setup appears to be appropriate.

The taller position of the P.E.P.R mount should allow access to the charging handle, even in this rearward position. It will also allow you to mount a folding BUIS at the far rear of the receiver....under the scope. I've rarely read negative comments regarding the P.E.P.R, so I see little reason for it to not work well for you also.

I personally use BCM's GUNFIGHTER charging handles with medium length latches on my ARs, for improved latch access.

What is your primary ammo used with the rifle? We may be able to help you choose a zero distance well suited to the bullet weight/velocity of your ammo.
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The mount is way to far forward you must have a really long neck. It should be as grizz said and also a BCM charging handle is a nice upgrade especially when you have a scope mounted on a it.. And don't use the standard rings they 1 are blocking the charging handle and 2 they have the scope staring at the front sight post they are far to low for the rifle that you have. if it had a rail and low pro gas block it would be fine but not the setup that you have.
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Did I miss something? If the gun is shooting low and POI does not change when you adjust the elevation, I would say the scope is not working. It should move the POI somewhere.
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Did I miss something? If the gun is shooting low and POI does not change when you adjust the elevation, I would say the scope is not working. It should move the POI somewhere.
Is there a favorite way you use to test/calibrate the scope "standalone" (i.e. not mounted on the gun)? I can see the reticle move relative to the target's bullseye when I make adjustments, but no matter what I do, the placements are still just south of the bullseye.

I'll start over again and get the scope reset to factory specs. Then I'll change the mount to ensure the eyepiece is flush to the charging handle.

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Did I miss something? If the gun is shooting low and POI does not change when you adjust the elevation, I would say the scope is not working. It should move the POI somewhere.
I had a scope do this drove me crazy . Thru it away .
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The mount is way to far forward you must have a really long neck. It should be as grizz said and also a BCM charging handle is a nice upgrade especially when you have a scope mounted on a it.. And don't use the standard rings they 1 are blocking the charging handle and 2 they have the scope staring at the front sight post they are far to low for the rifle that you have. if it had a rail and low pro gas block it would be fine but not the setup that you have.
Yes, I'll definitely recess the mount, per "man's" suggestion. (Sorry... can't figure out how to stop the icons.....)

How hard is it to replace the charging handle with a BCM? I've not yet delved into any mods to the upper or lower itself.

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To achieve the proper eye relief, the standard practice is to mount the scope so that the rear of the ocular lens is roughly even with the rear of the charging handle. The position of the scope in the low ring setup appears to be appropriate.

The taller position of the P.E.P.R mount should allow access to the charging handle, even in this rearward position. It will also allow you to mount a folding BUIS at the far rear of the receiver....under the scope. I've rarely read negative comments regarding the P.E.P.R, so I see little reason for it to not work well for you also.
Thanks! I'll change the mount to make it align with the handle.

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