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There's nothing to be gained from the left when it comes to gun issues. They'll never give an inch. the NRA is doing political posturing looking supportive of a measure that really doesn't affect the vast majority of gun owners.

This measure will no doubt fail as legislative action. Unless it becomes an NFA item which there's no indication the ATF will act on this. this way the NRA looks like it's supporting a " common sense" gun control measure that has very little chance of ever becoming law.
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, I understand what your saying, and I get they are putting on the "front" of NRA making these kind of decisions BUT what if it would pass? What if they turn this in to bigger legislation? Its a lot of what ifs of course but its a very slippery slope to me.
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, I understand what your saying, and I get they are putting on the "front" of NRA making these kind of decisions BUT what if it would pass? What if they turn this in to bigger legislation? Its a lot of what ifs of course but its a very slippery slope to me.
This.... and when they get a taste of blood, they will attack like a hungry pack of wolves.
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ATF unlikely to crack down on rapid-fire bump stocks

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/atf-unlikely-crack-down-rapid-fire-bump-stocks-n808441?cid=par-xfinity_20171007
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I don't care if the ATF isn't planning anything on Bump Stocks. The NRA had no business even commenting on it.Much less supporting ANY Restrictions on it. I am up to renew and having 2nd thoughts about it now
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Everyone just calm down. AR15.com blew up on this a few days ago. Did you read what the NRA suggested? They asked the ATF to review to see if bump stocks were legal and required regulation or restriction. ATF gave approval and said bumpstocks are legal years ago. NRA doesn't create laws nor do they tell ATF how to enforce them. If the NRA could tell congress and the ATF what laws to make and how to interpret them we would all be able to Form 1 new machine guns at will. This is the NRA using slight of hand to say the firearms used were legal and in legal configuration. The mainstream of the country thinks bumpstocks ate illegal so they are screaming that this dirtbag Las Vegas shooter was using illegal arms and modifications when in fact he probably wasn't. He operated within the law until he vandalized his hotel room and sprayed out the illegally broken windows. The NRA knows bumpstocks are legal and wants ATF to put out there that they in the past have certified that bumpstocks are legal. Putting the onus on the ATF to say they are legal and if you want to ban them then you need you representatives to write a law to make it illegal. The can of worms that congress would open is massive and they more than likely won't touch it or face the wrath of voters who say enough is enough. You can't ban your way to safety. You can keep creating legislation and people will continue to create legal means to be able to do what they want. Even if you make it illegal a criminal bent on killing won't think twice about illegally modifying to create what they feel they need. So step back and READ what the NRA proposed and make a decision if the work they do is in your interests or not. How would it look in the wake of the deadliest mass shooting outside of warefare in the US if the NRA sat back and said "It was all legal and you can suck an egg if you think we care." Most have that view of the NRA already but this may throw them for a loop.
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Angry Really? Read this Proposed bill By Florida Republican Curbelo !

There will be no calming down. Look at this. And worst of all, it's a Republican that started it! From Floriduh! Not passed committee, probably won't pass committee,but My Point is: The NRA should have been quiet on this! Period!
https://curbelo.house.gov/uploadedfi...mpstockban.pdf

I strongly oppose this bill as it is ambiguous. There are no specific named accessories, nor standards for rate of fire, which could potentially render every semi auto firearm illegal and every law abiding gun,owner a felon. I oppose any further gun control at Federal, State, or Local level.
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