4 Army soldiers plotted to overthrow Obama in a coup

[Roverron]

http://tribuneofthepeople.com/2012/0...rnment-report/

This has been slowly coming out today, not sure if you have seen this. Basically, they purchased $87k in guns and explosives and killed a recently discharged vet and his wife because he was backing out of the plan and knew too much.

Look, I don't agree with Obama on most issues, but the last thing I want is for him to be martyred and placed on a pedestal for all to look up to, nor do I wish that we should fall under a military coup. Assasinations are not a good thing, and this country as fragile as it is right now, would fall into a race war of epic proportions. It would be chaos. I think these guys got a lot closer to succeeding than is being let on.

Here is another link
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ion/57349188/1

There have been talks about warnings from other countries, particularly from Putin that there are groups within the US military that have been planning things like this. Could this be bigger than just 4 guys?

[AutoMag]

Man.........I guess I should watch the news more than I do!!!

[skosh69]

Dayum...that's all I can say!

[Grouse]

with obama's war on vets it would not surprise me that some feel threatened.

[Riverpigusmc]

Originally Posted by Grouse

with obama's war on vets it would not surprise me that some feel threatened.

^ this

[Grouse]

so i am not the only one who notices this war on vets then?

[Riverpigusmc]

Originally Posted by Grouse

so i am not the only one who notices this war on vets then?

Not at all..and it's not just Veterans. Look at how they are fighting giving the military an extra day to early vote. Look at how much he wants the defense budget cut, while leaving the programs in place for no loads and welfare hounds. Giving Adam and shared rack space in the squadbay...the list goes on and on.."sensitivity traing" so we don't offend the sheet heads while they blow up our troops..excuse me, I gotta go puke now

[Grouse]

talking at more bullshit our soldiers have to put up with.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...#ixzz24fWiEEtj

August 26, 2012
Army Report Buried Islamic Motivations For Afghan Murders of US Troops
Andrew G. Bostom


On May 12, 2011 a US Army "Red Team" issued an unclassified report which purported to explain the burgeoning rash of murderous attacks (which have since escalated even further, still) by Afghan National Army (ANA) members on US and other NATO troops.
Although the report is dominated by apologetic, cultural relativist drivel which attempts, in vain, to explain away these acts of murder committed against the US and NATO troops by their by ANA "allies," it also includes a crudely buried, sub rosa truthful narrative.
This latter discussion is all that matters, and bears full, clear exposure -- particularly in light of the morally dubious excuse for the most recent spate of such killings of US troops. Specifically, General Allen in a pronouncement for which he should be forced to resign, maintained that Ramadan fasting, combined with operational tempo during the summer heat, were the drivers of these most recent killings of his own troops by Muslim ANA soldiers.
What General Allen willfully ignores was laid out, albeit clumsily camouflaged, using plain language, fifteen months ago in the "Red Team" report.
Based upon extensive interviews, US and NATO troops, as the report notes, were both disgusted with, and highly (and justifiably) suspicious of, the Islamically-sanctioned practices and behaviors of their Afghan military allies, and Afghan civilians.
[p. 3] U.S. Soldiers' views of ANSF [Afghan National Security Forces], particularly of the ANA, were...extremely negative. They reported pervasive illicit drug use, massive thievery, personal instability, dishonesty, no integrity, incompetence, unsafe weapons handling, corrupt officers, no real NCO [non-commissioned officer] corps, covert alliances/informal treaties with insurgents, high AWOL rates, bad morale, laziness, repulsive hygiene, and the torture of dogs. Perceptions of civilians were also negative stemming from their insurgent sympathies and cruelty towards women and children.
[Specific elaborations on Afghan Muslim treatment of dogs, women, and children; pp. 44-45] Many US soldiers were appalled by the rampant torture of dogs and puppies they witnessed while being based with ANSF units. Many ANSF members are prone to inflicting abuse onto stray dogs they bring to the base for "entertainment" purposes. Other ANSF members, while not condoning the torture, fail to see any importance in such behaviors given the standing of dogs in Islam. Dogs are seen as vermin and many ANSF members find it inexplicable that anyone could be concerned about such "trivial matters," and deeply resent any interference...This animal abuse is a substantial psychological stressor for many US soldiers and has been the cause of many serious social altercations with ANSF members...US soldiers reported that they had observed many cases of child abuse and neglect that infuriated them and alienated them from the civilian populace. They made it very clear that they wanted nothing to do with people who treat children so cruelly. Although not reported by the US soldiers who participated in this study. There have been numerous accounts of Canadian troops in Kandahar complaining about the rampant sexual abuse of children they have witnessed ANSF personnel commit, including the cultural practice of bacha bazi [link - ed], as well as the raping and sodomizing of little boys...Similarly, US soldiers...mentioned the poor treatment and virtual slavery of Women in Afghan society, and how they found such practices repugnant. They found it unpalatable to befriend other men who had such primitive beliefs; the cultural gulf was too wide. They were repulsed by the abuse and neglect they observed in how children are treated in Afghan society. US soldiers largely reported that they did not care for Afghan civilians due to these factors as well as their suspected sympathies for the insurgents.
But the most salient point -- blatantly ignored throughout the feckless conduct of our mission in Afghanistan, till now, and exemplified, glaringly, by General Allen's remarks -- was inserted (as item 40), non-sequitur, amongst 58 other comparatively trivial recommendations.
[p. 50] Better educate US soldiers in the central tenets of Islam as interpreted and practiced in Afghanistan. Ensure that this instruction is not a sanitized, politically correct training package, but rather includes an objective and comprehensive assessment of the totalitarian nature of the extreme theology practiced among Afghans.
As the Pentagon's only serious and honest (and of course now former) expert on Islamic Law, Major Stephen Coughlin observed in 2007:
If the Enemy in the War on Terror (WOT) states that he fights jihad in furtherance of Islamic causes that includes the imposition of Shari'a law and the re-establishment of the Caliphate; And Islamic law on jihad exists and is available in English; Then Professionals with WOT responsibilities have an affirmative, personal, professional duty to know the enemy that includes ALL the knowable facts associated with the law of jihad.
And Coughlin, a well-trained lawyer, further argued that such understanding by our military leaders is obligatory if they are to uphold their essential commission:
This is the Professional Standard.
The Red Team report's acknowledgement, no matter how grudging, of the essential role of Islamic totalitarianism in the ANA's murderous actions against US and NATO troops, suggests our military leadership's current dereliction of duty is even more egregious at present than when Major Coughlin shared his observations in 2007.


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