CCW....a wasted 8hr day

[allrockabilly]

I got basically the same kind of "instructor" in my course in MO. I actually live in Kansas but was able to take the CCW course and qualify in MO (my paperwork and shooting qualification was a little different), I live in the Kansas City area so one minute you can be in both states at once.

The only good thing that came from my CCW course was that I only had to pay $50 unlike most that pay about $150. But the Instructor was OK I guess, there was a lot more he could have gone over as far as every day carry, practice and Saftey. I didn't really learn a whole lot but maybe there were a few people that did. I would have liked to have learned a little more about the laws out here in MO & KS since I am originally from Las Vegas, Nevada (born & raised) and I know the laws in Nevada but there are some big differences out here in KS & MO as far as the law goes.

As far as the price goes I do think I had to pay a little more than the MO folk at the Sheriff's department when I went in to get my fingerprinting done...etc and then having to find a DMV drivers license department that did the ID's for CCW. I think this all cost another $150. So I think I paid a total of $200 but most pay about $300 I think.

Anyways that was my MO/KS CCW experience in a rambling nut shell. Sorry it's early in the morning

Thanks
- Ryan S

[herefordman1]

My .02.
The wife and I took our training in VA. Our inst. was an active LEO in Bristol, VA. IMO he did a good job and covered the "required" material so students could pass the test. He answered questions well and overall did a good job.
Here in OH, in additions to classroom time at the range is required which I think is a good practice. I know some of the students hadn't even handled a weapon.
So, overall there seems to be lots of variations as to content and requirements. Not unlike training around other subjects. A student surely can learn something from the training and learn more as time passes.

Jim

[Sheepdog]

In Texas it is more about the law and you have to shoot to show proficiency and safe gun handling. There are so many different guns out there it would almost be impossible to cover them all. I think that do to liability issues they only cover what is required.

[Grizzman]

The class I took last weekend was surprisingly thorough. It covered basic safety rules, sight alignment, likely after affects of a gunfight, and focused strongly on the need to practice, practice, and practice. Naturally, they suggested the students take the classes offered by the same outfit that gave the CCW class.

Laws were gone over pretty thoroughly, but she wouldn't dedicate any time to MO laws due to the lack of available time.

There wasn't any LEO bashing, cause the instructor was a 33 year LEO from KCMO.

[2TransAms]

The class I took had some very good points, sandwiched between hours of boredom. We had a one hour video from Sig about lasers which was basically a Sig advertisement, but there was also a good video and Q&A about deadly force.

[wildcatter]

We had a mostly laws and responsibilities pertaining to ccp's and weapons, but many types of weapons were passed around and there functions discussed. The importance of safety not only handling but how and where to keep and store in the home were also covered for those new to introducing a firearm into the home. No bashing and quite the contrary, are instructor was also a leo and was quite positive of law abiding citizens being armed. I thought it was well balanced and all but the proficiency testing was very good.

I will say and some won't like this, but there were about 25% of the class there that made me change my mind about being mandated to take this course. I assure you I would not want them around me with a loaded firearm and the attitude of to hell with it just shoot em and ask questions later, they confuse murder with self defense, some still do!! When I re qualify I am surprised at the ability of the gun owners there, they are probably very lucky they never have to rely on there ability to use there ccw!

[SemperFi1977m]

well, I can see that I should have no trepidations about complaining about my instructor. You guys seemed to have more of what I expected out of this class. I know what I need to know....but others in the class needed better instruction like you guys recieved