Training

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Originally Posted by Sheepdog

Don't get me wrong I prefer USPSA!!!! Lets you figure out the problems. I can't stand the rule book! Reload here, not there, don't take a step. NO RULES IN A GUNFIGHT!

The problem is it is not always available. I have to travel over 100 miles to shoot USPSA and Steel.(60for idpa)

There are a lot more rules in IDPA, But those rules are put in place to better prepare you in the event you do get into a gun battle.


Shooting and reloading from cover. Smart
Never move from one shooting position to another with a empty gun. Smart

USPSA is fun but if you just want to throw a bunch of lead down range go for it.

[zukinut]

Originally Posted by USPSA Shooter

There are a lot more rules in IDPA, But those rules are put in place to better prepare you in the event you do get into a gun battle.


Shooting and reloading from cover. Smart
Never move from one shooting position to another with a empty gun. Smart

USPSA is fun but if you just want to throw a bunch of lead down range go for it.

I have done a bunch of real world "situations", spent many a dollar on training with very well know instructors that a few on this forum can vouch for.

"If you’re in a gunfight:

- If you’re not shooting, you should be loading.

- If you’re not loading, you should be moving.

- If you’re not moving, you’re dead."

Even if your reloading you should be moving!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BlackKnight]

Originally Posted by zukinut

I have done a bunch of real world "situations", spent many a dollar on training with very well know instructors that a few on this forum can vouch for.

"If you’re in a gunfight:

- If you’re not shooting, you should be loading.

- If you’re not loading, you should be moving.

- If you’re not moving, you’re dead."

Even if your reloading you should be moving!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So have I and the one thing I took out of it and stand by is that there are no absolutes.

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by zukinut

I have done a bunch of real world "situations", spent many a dollar on training with very well know instructors that a few on this forum can vouch for.

"If you’re in a gunfight:

- If you’re not shooting, you should be loading.

- If you’re not loading, you should be moving.

- If you’re not moving, you’re dead."

Even if your reloading you should be moving!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very much DISAGREE with your statement.

[GD2A]

Originally Posted by USPSA Shooter

Very much DISAGREE with your statement.

Why do you disagree? I've only started taking classes in the past six months but that's what I've learned and it makes sense. I'm not challenging you - just asking questions to learn.

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by GD2A

Why do you disagree? I've only started taking classes in the past six months but that's what I've learned and it makes sense. I'm not challenging you - just asking questions to learn.

Yes you should move but you really don't need to be moving with a unloaded gun. To many things to go wrong while moving, dropping a mag to be the biggest. Unless you are in a place you know very well you could be running to a one way in one way out situation.

My earlier post was not to compare IDPA to training, but to let the OP how IDPA works.


There are times to sit still and times to move, You just have to make the right choice.


But then again there are some here that know more then me.....or they think that anyway.

Most get training from someone who has never been in a gun fight, Can they train you for one? Not really.

[skosh69]

train-ing? Did someone say train-ing??? I don't need no stinking train-ing!!!

I've played countless hours of COD Black Ops and the Battlefield series of video games....I'm good to go!

Now, that I'm done making everyone smile, can we get back to the topic and stop fighting with each other?

Oh, I was only kidding about the video games. If I ever get the chance to carry legally, I will look into training.

[milkmanjoe]

Originally Posted by USPSA Shooter

Yes you should move but you really don't need to be moving with a unloaded gun. To many things to go wrong while moving, dropping a mag to be the biggest. Unless you are in a place you know very well you could be running to a one way in one way out situation.

My earlier post was not to compare IDPA to training, but to let the OP how IDPA works.


There are times to sit still and times to move, You just have to make the right choice.


But then again there are some here that know more then me.....or they think that anyway.

Most get training from someone who has never been in a gun fight, Can they train you for one? Not really.

Hmmmm, while both of my instructors have been in multiple gunfights in their work life, and both have been shot and lived to tell, I wouldn't discount any trainer based on his lack of gunfight experience. Probably thousands of trainers who offer great insight, very few been shot at. Probably plenty of trainers who have been shot at and cannot convey a message of life or death situations worth their weight in copper.
I will say that I have been lucky in finding my instructors. I can only imagine the frustration of people looking for someone they can trust.

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Originally Posted by milkmanjoe

Hmmmm, while both of my instructors have been in multiple gunfights in their work life, and both have been shot and lived to tell, I wouldn't discount any trainer based on his lack of gunfight experience. Probably thousands of trainers who offer great insight, very few been shot at. Probably plenty of trainers who have been shot at and cannot convey a message of life or death situations worth their weight in copper.
I will say that I have been lucky in finding my instructors. I can only imagine the frustration of people looking for someone they can trust.

I got lucky and train with 2 SF guys with multiple deployments and god only knows how many firefights, their training fits me nicely, High stress situations while shooting from multiply positions and distances. Matter of fact in two weeks will go to another class with them, Low light AR/Pistol course.