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Old 01-16-2015, 09:37 AM
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I carried a 1911 on the SWAT team for a number of years. Being able to attach a light has it's advantages.
As far as the OP I like it. That may be my next pistol.
Little voice in your ear..... Dan Wesson Valkryie, Dan Wesson Valkryie

I'm tapped on guns/ammo for 2015 already..I'm scratchin' arse trying to find 2K for a Valkryie.
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Nah......no rails, no lights...... Patooey
My sentiments exactly.

On a poly pistol; who cares? But it just "uglies up" a 1911 to me.
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Little voice in your ear..... Dan Wesson Valkryie, Dan Wesson Valkryie

I'm tapped on guns/ammo for 2015 already..I'm scratchin' arse trying to find 2K for a Valkryie.
If scratchin your arse produces 2k, scratch the other cheek and get me some cash too please
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:28 AM
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Must be some kind of mental calisthenics as I watch President Obama's press conference with David Cameron trying to explain how his approach has stalled the Iranian effort for a nuke with his sanctions and meetings. The pummeling of my gray matter with his twisted half assed moronic comments have blown my thoughts on this hand gun right out of my head. Sorry. I think, when I started, that it doesn't float my boat; but I can't remember why.
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The only real difference is the front strap treatment and the VZ grips. These changes mean I can never get one again in California. They are also bringing back the Long Beach Operator. Basically the same gun in all black Armory Coat.
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The only real difference is the front strap treatment and the VZ grips. These changes mean I can never get one again in California. They are also bringing back the Long Beach Operator. Basically the same gun in all black Armory Coat.
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Wait, what? Please excuse my ignorance, but why would those changes preclude you from owning one in California?
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Wait, what? Please excuse my ignorance, but why would those changes preclude you from owning one in California?
Don't ask...

Believe it or not, sometimes just the grips or finish can prevent us from owning one gun over another. It's our "roster" of safe guns list. Happens a lot with Springfield Armory.

Manufacturers have to submit 3 guns for testing and pay a fee if they want their guns to be sold in California. Among other examples of requirements of said guns is that they have an LCI - Loaded Chamber Indicator and magazine disconnect, if the mag is dropped the gun will not fire. 1911's are exempt from the mag disco.

Oh yeah, the approval for lack of better terms for allowing the gun to be able to be sold here is only good for a year. The mfr's have to keep renewing it if they want to continue to sell the gun here.

Don't get me started on the micro stamping that caused S&W and Ruger to pull their lineup from our shelves.
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Every change from the "approved" configuration has to be approved as a "new" model. From my understanding, in order for a "new" gun to be approved, it has to have a magazine disconnect and a loaded chamber indicator. That rules out new 1911s.

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Don't ask...

Believe it or not, sometimes just the grips or finish can prevent us from owning one gun over another. It's our "roster" of safe guns list. Happens a lot with Springfield Armory.

Manufacturers have to submit 3 guns for testing and pay a fee if they want their guns to be sold in California. Among other examples of requirements of said guns is that they have an LCI - Loaded Chamber Indicator and magazine disconnect, if the mag is dropped the gun will not fire. 1911's are exempt from the mag disco.

Oh yeah, the approval for lack of better terms for allowing the gun to be able to be sold here is only good for a year. The mfr's have to keep renewing it if they want to continue to sell the gun here.

Don't get me started on the micro stamping that caused S&W and Ruger to pull their lineup from our shelves.
Oh my. I wasn't aware of all those restrictions. It's a shame, becuase they win that way. They make it so hard for the manufacturers to sell in your state they'll just stop trying. That's what they want.
Man, I thought NJ was bad.
Anyway, I'm definitely looking into this when they become available.
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