New Ruger Precision Rifle

[bttbbob]

A Remington, will take at least 1500 or more to compete with this gun. Not including the cost of the gun.

Trigger 250.00
Chassis 1100.00
20 MOA Rail 165.
5R barrel 550.00
detachable box mag 250.00 for bottom medal and 75.00 for a mag

And that is just the start.

[GD2A]

So they're legitimately selling a $2,500 rifle for 1K - that truly is revolutionary! But ... HOW???

[Lonestar grips.]

Bob,

I like the rifle a lot but in the end isn't accuracy more important than all those accessories?

say a savage 10 could out shoot the Ruger, wouldn't the Savage be the better choice for long range work?

[bttbbob]

would be if it came with all the same options for the same price........But alas that would not be the case here.......I own a Savage model 10 in .223. I had to put a stock and bed it, put a target trigger on it, a 20 moa rail......Now I have better than a 1000.00 in it, but it does shoot 1/2 MOA.....And I don't have a fully adjustable chassis. Nor magazine feed...

[Lonestar grips.]

that doesn't really answer my question.

I fully agree for that style of bolt action rifle the Ruger is a major win. definitely cheaper than taking a stock bolt action and adding that kind of stock, rail, and detachable mag and all the other little things.

what i'm saying is you don't need all that stuff to shoot at long range (Carlos Hathcock sure didn't) if you took a stock heavy barrled Savage model 10 or Remington 700 did no mods to it and it could out shoot the Ruger then wouldn't it be the better choice?

to me the answer would be yes!

saying it would take $1500 + the cost of the rifle to bring a Rem 700 to this level only really counts if you want all the extras.

[bttbbob]

I disagree that Carlos didn't need that. I actually worked with him at Quantico. I was a PMI there. His original sniper rifle would have cost over 2500.00 in today bucks. He bought a Winchester model 70 that was completely reworked by the armorers in RVN. Barrel, trigger, bedded stock..........The works.

A standard Savage model 10 will not outshoot this gun...They are claiming 1/2 to 3/4 MOA out of the Ruger out of the box....I have yet to see a stock Savage even the high end ones like the 110 BA do under 3/4 MOA.

[Lonestar grips.]

Originally Posted by bttbbob

I disagree that Carlos didn't need that. I actually worked with him at Quantico. I was a PMI there. His original sniper rifle would have cost over 2500.00 in today bucks. He bought a Winchester model 70 that was completely reworked by the armorers in RVN. Barrel, trigger, bedded stock..........The works.

A standard Savage model 10 will not outshoot this gun...They are claiming 1/2 to 3/4 MOA out of the Ruger out of the box....I have yet to see a stock Savage even the high end ones like the 110 BA do under 3/4 MOA.

Bob,

cool that you got to meet and work with Carlos! I wasn't saying that he didn't need a tuned Rifle, I was simply stating that he didn't need a detachable mag, tactical stock and all those other newer things to shoot at long range.


Maybe not every out of the box Savage will get 1/2MOA but I've read a lot of user reviews over the years stating outstanding accuracy. heck I've even seen lots of threads about the Savage Axis putting 5 shots under a dime.


because of technology Rifle makers today more and more turn out a consistently accurate firearm but if you take ten Savage model 10's and shoot them one after the other they won't all shoot the same. some will be better and others worse. saying "A standard Savage model 10 will not outshoot this gun" is a bold statement don't you think? you'd have to shoot every single rifle ever made to know that.

not trying to Piss you off or start a fight. you certainly know more about long range shooting than I do. I just find it hard to believe you need all the extras to shoot accurately at long range. I guess my 222rem, 22-250 and 25-06 that shoot under 1/2MOA (all sporter's under $600) have spoiled me.

[bttbbob]

I don't evah get pissed anymore......I get it. The whole point of this was to inform folks of a new tactical rifle with all the stuff that are options on other rifles at this price point. It is an apples to apples comparison........If you have 3 sporter rifles that shoot under 1/2 MOA you are either the luckiest guy in the world or someone that sold them to you love you.
I can tell you that out of a 100 off the shelf guns less than 5 will shoot under 1 moa that cost under 600.00.

Need is a relevant affair. I don't need a bull barrel to shoot 1000 yards.....Unless I shoo t more than 10 rounds then I do. I don't need a gun to shoot under 1 moa unless the target is under a moa...............

If you find a gun under a 1000.00 that shoots under .75 moa you have a steal.

[bttbbob]

I would agree, if you could buy something cheaper that shot better and you liked the way it was decked out. It would be a buy. I can tell you, i have about 8 rifles that shoot under 3/4 MOA but none of them could I replace for 1000.00