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Old 10-06-2017, 08:38 AM
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My hope is the NRA realizes this so they are playing along with this bit of political theater for political gain down the road, knowing that it probably will not pass. The NRA did state that they are hoping for an ATF solution rather than a congressional one.

An outright ban, is impossible to enforce. People will just remove them, but probably not destroy them....They aren't serialized. Who knows who has what?

Plus they can be 3D printed easily.....

The only way to really regulate them is to treat them as yet another NFA item, like a machine gun, SBR, or suppressor, requiring a Form 1 to make and a Form 4 to sell.....

Which would force them to open the registry.

Which would likely force an amnesty......

At that point, want a M16? Buy a lower, fill out a Form 1 and pay your 200 tax...
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Old 10-06-2017, 09:41 AM
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My hope is the NRA realizes this so they are playing along with this bit of political theater for political gain down the road, knowing that it probably will not pass. The NRA did state that they are hoping for an ATF solution rather than a congressional one.

An outright ban, is impossible to enforce. People will just remove them, but probably not destroy them....They aren't serialized. Who knows who has what?

Plus they can be 3D printed easily.....

The only way to really regulate them is to treat them as yet another NFA item, like a machine gun, SBR, or suppressor, requiring a Form 1 to make and a Form 4 to sell.....

Which would force them to open the registry.

Which would likely force an amnesty......

At that point, want a M16? Buy a lower, fill out a Form 1 and pay your 200 tax...

I understand their play, give and take. But, do you really think the anti's will give anything in return? Hell no! This will only show signs of weakness. Your boy Trump said there will be no more attacks against our gun rights.....I hope he shuts this shit down immediately.

If you give them an inch.....well, you know the rest.
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Old 10-06-2017, 10:41 AM
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I saw this coming a mile away.

We don't even know for sure how many bump stocks are involved.
I have read different accounts saying anywhere from 1 to 12 of the rifles had bump stocks and 1 to 10 of the rifles were fully auto. Unfortunately, this battle is already lost in the court of public opinion. It doesn't matter what the constitutional issues are, bump stocks are history as unregulated items. If we can make gains elsewhere, like universal reciprocity and deregulated suppressors, then let the bump stocks be a sacrificial lamb.

I think the absolute best we can hope for is that bump stocks become a Class III item.

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I don't think it has much of a chance of actually passing at the federal level.

In any case, I stopped renewing my NRA membership when the hats and other items they sent on renewal were no longer made in the USA, but made in China.
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A while back they had a special on lifetime memberships and I jumped on it. At the time I was competing regularly, and NRA membership was required.

I have let them know in no uncertain terms that I have paid all I'm going to pay, and I am retired with a fixed income, so don't bother trying to get any more money from me.

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I called the NRA this morning and gave them my opinion. They didn't seem to care what I thought. Might be my last year as a member.
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