Hi Point Carbines

[DaFadda]

nope.. we're talking about the 9mm carbine, not the pistols. Its reliable, fun to shoot, and well made ala AK... stamped steel, mass produced. Its NOT a tack driver, its a plinker. A cheap people's gun. But it works. I won't sell mine because its simply fun to shoot.

[Roverron]

So in your opinion, is This something only for the range or could it be part of a home defense group?
I realize it won't have accuracy of a 223 or 5.56, or the range. Sine I don't live on a farm or out in the country I'm in a suburb in and just look for different guns to add. I don't own an AR, but I'd like to, and I'd like to try building one. However, for the price seems like a viable gun to add. What do you guys think? Is the Keltec better? Or even step up to an H&K? Or just wait and do the AR?

[Grouse]

honestly, I would pick up the 9mm, witha 30 round mag. throw a laser/light on it and use it for home defense.

keltek is nicer but i don't know if it is worth the wait or extra price. If you are are looking for a AR style 223 round.

Look at keltek's plr 16 very nice rifle

and su-16

http://www.gunblast.com/KelTec-SU16.htm
http://www.gunblast.com/Kel-Tec_PLR-16.htm
http://www.gunblast.com/Kel-Tec_Sub2000.htm
http://www.gunblast.com/HiPoint-9mmCarbine.htm

[DaFadda]

Originally Posted by Roverron

So in your opinion, is This something only for the range or could it be part of a home defense group?
I realize it won't have accuracy of a 223 or 5.56, or the range. Sine I don't live on a farm or out in the country I'm in a suburb in and just look for different guns to add. I don't own an AR, but I'd like to, and I'd like to try building one. However, for the price seems like a viable gun to add. What do you guys think? Is the Keltec better? Or even step up to an H&K? Or just wait and do the AR?

Ron, Would I put my faith in the HP 9mm carbine in the field, with a pack, mud and blood? No. I'd want something else, and not in 9mm. In a range environment, and as a home defense weapon, where it is going to remain relatively clean and well cared for? YES. For the cost, I would buy one.

All this said, mine pretty much sits in the safe now. Swinging a carbine in my bedroom is more difficult than swinging a DW CCO at 3am. I am looking for a 9mm upper for a AR lower that I already own so that I can compete at MPrimo's carbine shoots on Thursday nights!

[Roverron]

So, do the 9mm uppers work ok on the AR lowers? What is needed for that? just the mags and the 9mm upper?

[DaFadda]

Others will have MUCH more knowledge on this than I... my sentiment is that whatever AR 9mm upper you buy... you probably have to purchase mags that are compatible. It's not a one size fits all. The prices on 9mm uppers are in the $500-800 range, which is TWICE the price of a basic HP carbine in 9mm. That's a lot of cash.

I'm looking for a 9mm carbine upper because I want to remain true to the manual of arms for an AR. Not because I distrust the HP Carbine.

Dafadda

[Thedragonslayer]

Originally Posted by DaFadda

Others will have MUCH more knowledge on this than I... my sentiment is that whatever AR 9mm upper you buy... you probably have to purchase mags that are compatible. It's not a one size fits all. The prices on 9mm uppers are in the $500-800 range, which is TWICE the price of a basic HP carbine in 9mm. That's a lot of cash.

I'm looking for a 9mm carbine upper because I want to remain true to the manual of arms for an AR. Not because I distrust the HP Carbine.

Dafadda

Yep! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What he said.