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Old 08-05-2014, 06:53 PM
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Angry Time to Correct Obama!

This is The Constitution form White House website:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/our-govern...stitution#bill
The Bill of Rights according to Obama:
The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The Second Amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms. "Gives"??

The Third Amendment prohibits the government from quartering troops in private homes, a major grievance during the American Revolution.

The Fourth Amendment protects citizens from unreasonable search and seizure. The government may not conduct any searches without a warrant, and such warrants must be issued by a judge and based on probable cause.

The Fifth Amendment provides that citizens not be subject to criminal prosecution and punishment without due process. Citizens may not be tried on the same set of facts twice, and are protected from self-incrimination (the right to remain silent). The amendment also establishes the power of eminent domain, ensuring that private property is not seized for public use without just compensation.

The Sixth Amendment assures the right to a speedy trial by a jury of one's peers, to be informed of the crimes with which they are charged, and to confront the witnesses brought by the government. The amendment also provides the accused the right to compel testimony from witnesses, and to legal representation.

The Seventh Amendment provides that civil cases also be tried by jury.

The Eighth Amendment prohibits excessive bail, excessive fines, and cruel and unusual punishments.

The Ninth Amendment states that the list of rights enumerated in the Constitution is not exhaustive, and that the people retain all rights not enumerated.

The Tenth Amendment assigns all powers not delegated to the United States, or prohibited to the states, to either the states or to the people.




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Tuesday, 05 August 2014 16:03 Written by Gun Owners of America
An Open Letter to President Barack H. Obama

The Honorable Barack H. Obama
President of the United States
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue N.W.
Washington, DC 20500

Re: White House Website: The Need to Correct a
False Description of the Second Amendment

Dear President Obama:alt

As Executive Director of Gun Owners of America, Inc., and Executive Vice President of Gun Owners Foundation, and on behalf of our over 300,000 members and supporters, I respectfully bring to your attention a matter that requires your immediate action.

The official White House website includes a page1 which purports to describe key provisions of the United States Constitution. With respect to the Second Amendment, the complete description of the Second Amendment on the website is as follows:

"The Second Amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms." [Emphasis original.]

Even recognizing that the website attempts to present only a simple summary of provisions of the Constitution, the description is highly inaccurate, and should be immediately corrected so as not to mislead the American people as to the true nature and scope of the Second Amendment. There are two separate problems with the White House website.

Correction Number 1

The Second Amendment does not “give” citizens any rights. Rather, as the U.S. Supreme Court explained in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Second Amendment “codifies,”2 “protects,”3 and “secure[s]”4 a right — rather than “grants,” “bestows,” or “gives” one.

The Supreme Court explicitly stated that “it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right. The Second Amendment text recognizes the right as pre-existent, declaring only that it ‘shall not be infringed.’” Id. at 592 (emphasis added). That is why the Court concluded in Heller that the right to keep and bear arms “belongs to all Americans.” Id. at 581 (emphasis added).5

Thus, the Second Amendment protects a right granted us by our Creator, as described in the nation’s charter, the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. [Emphasis added.]

You can understand our concern here, for if the Second Amendment is a mere privilege given to American citizens by government, it is a privilege which can be overcome by naked assertions of public safety. Indeed, this misunderstanding of the Second Amendment undergirds the erroneous positions being argued in many cases across the country by your Attorney General and the U.S. Justice Department.

Correction Number 2

Additionally, the description on the White House website completely ignores the fact that the Second Amendment protects not only the right to “bear” arms but also to “keep” them.

Indeed, the U.S. Supreme Court in Heller expressly addressed the right to “keep” a handgun for self-defense within the home. In its analysis, the Supreme Court, in parsing the words of the Second Amendment, analyzed the right to “keep” separately from the right to “bear” arms. Id. at 581. These two words have specific, and different, meanings, protecting different sets of activities. One must first enjoy the right to own (“keep”) a firearm in order to protect its use (“bear”).


Conclusion

On behalf of one of the largest and oldest firearms rights groups in the United States, we respectfully suggest that the White House adopt following language to replace the erroneous explanation:

"The Second Amendment seeks to preserve the United States as a free nation, by protecting the right of individual American citizens to acquire, own, possess, sell, carry and use modern firearms, both through service in a citizen’s militia as a final line of defense against government tyranny, as well as other personal uses such as self-defense, hunting, and other sporting activities."

Please do not hesitate to contact me if we can be of further assistance in this matter. We look forward to these corrections to the White House’s website being made in the near future.


The 2nd Amendment!
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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Old 08-05-2014, 11:07 PM
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Obama's rewording of The 2nd Amendment implies the Right to Bear Arms is "Given"
Something "Given" can be "Taken". Millions of school kids can interpret this like that. This is DELIBERATE!
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When my kids were in elementary school, just two years ago, they were "taught" that the Second Amendment was to keep a gun in your house for protection and hunting. My oldest son spoke up about tyranny and was hushed by the teacher. He told me, I went to school, I haven't been invited on a filed trip since. But I was on nearly every one before. Scroom. My kids graduated and we moved on. The sad fact is the teachers believe this crap. They get a lesson plan that spells it out, and if they don't know better or do their own research what they see is what they believe and teach. Goes WAY past the 2A. Some of the crap my kids came home with has my head spinning. There is a much larger power, not the teachers, driving this mis-information.
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I never understood how the 68 GCA passed muster in the courts, with it's "Sporting Purpose" exception. I knew even then that the 2nd Amendment was not for sporting purposes, but that seemed to be a carrot to entice hunters to go along with the law. Somehow they duped a large segment of gun owners into believing that the 2nd Amendment was for deer rifles.

In fact I recall some major hunting mags even supported gun control for non-sporting weapons like "Saturday Night Specials." I wrote scathing letters to the editor of those mags and dropped my subscriptions.
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I never understood how the 68 GCA passed muster in the courts, with it's "Sporting Purpose" exception. I knew even then that the 2nd Amendment was not for sporting purposes, but that seemed to be a carrot to entice hunters to go along with the law. Somehow they duped a large segment of gun owners into believing that the 2nd Amendment was for deer rifles.

In fact I recall some major hunting mags even supported gun control for non-sporting weapons like "Saturday Night Specials." I wrote scathing letters to the editor of those mags and dropped my subscriptions.
I had forgotten about the Saturday Night Special being all over the news. That same time in history would play out much differently with social media in place.
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