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Old 05-29-2013, 04:45 PM
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Summary of today's senate hearing travesties so far....

SB 683 [Firearms: Firearm Safety Certificate]....Passes 28-11

SB 53 [Ammunition: Purchase permits] ...Passes 22-14
Summary: Ammunition buyer permit requirement; face-to-face ammo sales only at licensed dealers.
•Requires annual background check and permit for the purchase of ammunition.
•Requires all ammunition sales to occur face-to-face.
•Requires assistance from retail staff in a store to handle all ammunition for purchase.
•Requires ammunition vendors to submit sales records to the CA Department of Justice.

SB 396 [Firearms: Magazine Capacity] ....Passes 24-14
Summary: Magazine ban
•Criminalizes the possession of high capacity magazines regardless of the date the magazine was acquired – full retroactive ban.
•Results in a taking of property that was previously lawful.
•Requires magazine bodies to be no longer than is necessary to accommodate 10 rounds of ammunition, the spring, and the follower.
•Bans “10/30” style magazines and any factory magazine that is designed to accommodate large-frame handguns, rifles, and shotguns.

SB 755 [Firearms: Prohibited Persons] ....Passes 25-12
Summary: Expands the list of “prohibited persons”
•This bill vastly expands the list of prohibitions to firearms possession.
•SB 755 adds several misdemeanors to the list of prohibiting offenses including hazing, transferring a firearm without completing the transaction through a licensed firearms dealer, furnishing ammunition to a minor, carrying ammunition onto school grounds, and several others.
•Makes it a felony to possess a firearm if a person has been convicted of two or more crimes within a three-year period and was found to have been under the influence of drugs or alcohol during the commission of the crimes.
•Makes it a felony to possess a firearm if a person has been convicted of possessing any controlled substance for sale.
•Makes it a felony to possess a firearm if a person has violated any protective order that was issued due to a threat of violence.
•Prohibits the possession of a firearm during court ordered outpatient for mental illness during that treatment.

SB 47 [Firearms: Assault Weapons Bullet Buttons] ....Passes 22-14
Summary: Ban and forced registration of firearms.
•Expands the definition of “assault weapon” to include rifles that have magazines which can be removed without disassembly of the “action”.
•A firearm’s “action” is not defined in the bill, leaving it open to subjective interpretation by law enforcement officers, District Attorneys, judges, and juries.
•Owners of “off list” “bullet button”, and other “mag-locked” firearms would be required to register (at the gun owner’s expense) each gun with the DOJ by July 1, 2014, or face imprisonment and other criminal liability.
•Even after registration, transfer and inheritance of SB 47-regulated firearms would be banned – resulting in an effective taking of lawfully owned private property.

SB 374 [Firearms: Assault Weapons registration] .....Passes 23-15
Summary: Ban and forced registration of all semi-automatic rifles (including rimfire)
•Requires gun owners to register every semi-automatic rifle, including rimfire.
•Requires gun owners of existing semi-auto rifles to submit fingerprints and forms to DOJ, which will be tracked in a government database.
•Bans sales and transfers of virtually all semi-automatic rifles after Jan 1, 2014.
•“Bullet button” and similarly “mag-locked” off-list (OLL) rifles would be considered banned “assault weapons”.

Senators who repeatedly spoke up for our 2A rights:
-Jim Neilson.. (R) Tehama
- knight.. (R) Palmdale
-Roderick Wright.. (D) Los Angeles
-Ted Gaines (R).. Rocklin

http://www.firearmspolicy.org/the-is...nia/2013-2014/
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Holy Crap.
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Anyone who lives in that state is screwed!
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Screwed is putting it mildly. What happened to the constitution? Skosh is really screwed.
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ARGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



While the bills may of passed, some won't go into effect for years to come. The ammo bill being one of them, July 2015.

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run as fast as you can!

we might even let you move to Texas.
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run as fast as you can!

we might even let you move to Texas.
We are good here in Virginia! "Gun Friendly", we are.
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We are good here in Virginia! "Gun Friendly", we are.
Yep, come join us, Pino. There's room in my neighborhood, and we're a pretty conservative bunch down here.

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we might even let you move to Texas.
I have relatives in the Houston area already! A few years back we almost moved out to Texas.
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Come on out! No state income tax in Texas! Gun friendly nice areas around Houston.
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