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#1
06-29-2015, 08:38 PM
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Your thoughts ....
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Rich COTEP #762 A gun is a tool, no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. 
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#2
06-29-2015, 08:59 PM
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Court trampled state's rights, why not the state trampling parental rights
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NRA Life Member Wilson Combat CQB Kimber Tactical Pro II S&W J-Frame .38 ect " I don't own the clothes I'm wearin', and the road goes on forever "  There's a gator in the bushes, and it's calling my name... COTEP #523
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#3
06-29-2015, 09:44 PM
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Blame outbreaks on "bad" parents and not on the disease vectors (illegal aliens)
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Jim CBOB0497 "That rifle hanging on the wall of the working class flat or laborer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." - George Orwell
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#4
06-29-2015, 10:13 PM
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06-30-2015, 09:36 AM
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The logic on this morning's TV debate was that non immunized kids could spread the disease or virus. OK, fair enough, but they can only spread it to other kids whose parents chose to not immunize. So the only sick kids would be the ones whose parents said no to the needle. I'm OK with that. My kids are immunized, they would be fine. Oh, and that whole autism argument... it's BS....my wife is a pharmacist and a chemist...she understands the science not the television hype...our kids get shots.
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#6
06-30-2015, 10:07 AM
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I was this morning having an internal debate on this... I'm totally divided. I get the constitutional state rights debate, but it is also the state who runs with the cost of facing epidemics... We definitely don't live in an island. I guess it is and will be a centuries old debate, how much the government/society has to intervene in personal lives.
But at the end, I'm with Joe on this. Quote:
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#7
06-30-2015, 12:55 PM
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Rich COTEP #762 A gun is a tool, no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti.
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#8
06-30-2015, 04:09 PM
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Guys (and
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#9
06-30-2015, 04:35 PM
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That's why I said I'm divided. Yes, I don't like the interference in everything, but choosing to live in a crowded diverse country has its price. The same way laws have to evolve to catch up with modern society, this is one of those Danm if you do, Danm if you don't cases for government.
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#10
06-30-2015, 10:52 PM
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IMHO failure to immunize is a failure of parental responsibility.
Immunization works best when ALL are immunized. It doesn't give the "bug" a chance to mutate. The holdouts put all at risk.
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