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#1
11-05-2017, 04:56 PM
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Prayers needed for ...
... Texas.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/05/mass-shooting-reported-at-texas-sutherland-springs-church.html https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/mom-allegedly-kills-her-two-daughters-and-tells-husband-babe-i-just-shot-the-kids/ar-AAuq31n?OCID=ansmsnnews11
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Rich COTEP #762 A gun is a tool, no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. 
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#2
11-05-2017, 05:23 PM
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Sent, I am assuming that this church could have had a 30.06 sign posted and that left everyone inside vulnerable? I know when I attend my church the pastor is hard to read on his 2A stance but I don't care. Most of the attendees are wearing tucked in polo shirts and shorts that could not handle a firearm. Me, I just AIWB with an untucked Tshirt.
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#3
11-05-2017, 05:32 PM
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My church is a “no gun” church. I know the spiritual reason but it chafes.
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COTEP #719 "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria
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#4
11-05-2017, 06:36 PM
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 The article said she had also wanted to kill herself. I trust the State will take care of that for her. I really have to feel for the husband. In essence, he's lost his entire family. Thank goodness he didn't lose his life as well. As for the church shooting, I'm afraid it will come to at least one or two parishioners acting as "security" and CCW'ing. I know that's often against the teachings of some churches, but what's the alternative? Having your parish numbers dwindle down to nothing as people avoid being in places like that? If I were that clergy or vestry/elder member, I'd want at least two people acting as De-facto security for the parish. Unfortunately, BGs know that a church (especially one with a "no gun" policy) is the perfect place to commit such a crime... one that will garner the most media attention. It really sucks. 
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#5
11-05-2017, 07:13 PM
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The church shooter, Devin Kelley, was dishonorably discharged from the Air Force. He therefore could not have legally possessed a firearm.
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11-05-2017, 08:10 PM
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he was ran off with a citizen with a firearm. In Texas, signs have force of law. Jesus told us to sell our garment and buy a sword. I comply. BTW, citizen stopped the asshole
https://news.grabien.com/story-texas...-killer-ending
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11-05-2017, 11:04 PM
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Reports are coming in that he was Antifa. I haven't seen any reliable sources yet confirm it.
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Jim CBOB0497 "That rifle hanging on the wall of the working class flat or laborer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." - George Orwell
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11-06-2017, 07:21 AM
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Rich COTEP #762 A gun is a tool, no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti.
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11-06-2017, 10:54 AM
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What the heck is “antifa” anyway?! There are too many labels in this snowflake infested world.
Of course you’re anti-facist, unless you’re a goose-stepping moron. I’m anti-facist! I’m also a pro-gun, pro democratic-republic, pro-freedom, pro-elected officials, pro..... Hum. Sorry about the rant.
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COTEP #719 "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria
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#10
11-07-2017, 06:19 PM
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